[PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

[Scott R. Looney]

well, speaking as a new member of the list and a very budding PD user
coming from last using Max 5.1 i am happy with any incremental steps making
the interface more usable. i do realize that usability can be a subjective
term, but even simply paving the way for more options is an excellent start.

i don't believe i saw HC attempting to claim sole credit for the work he
does every day on creating a more balanced release of on top of others hard
work. his whole focus to me seems to be how to improve things and move PD
forward both in terms of stability and usability/flexibility.

personally i have some gripes - i'm not enthusiastic about the look of
Tcl/Tk apps in general - they are too blocky with no apparent ability for
alpha channeling in the gui. i think Juce comes closer for me. i would love
the ability to zoom in on patches. i use this feature all the time when in
Max 5.1. i think not being able to pass the { and } characters without a
somewhat convoluted workaround REALLY holds PD back from interacting with
Javascript or most scripting languages in a way friendly a newbie.

in spite of all that, i see real progress behind the scenes with
PD-extended, and i have no doubt that it will continue to move in a
direction that will offer more flexibility and usability down the road
using the input from as many users as who wish to participate. i don't see
HC as claiming to have reinvented the PD gui but it's lot of work
corralling many different extended efforts, keeping track of changes, and
answering the majority of tech questions that comes across the list, and i
am grateful to him and everyone else who contributes time and effort to
making PD better for newbies and more flexible for pros.

scott

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Roman Haefeli <reduzent at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 10:36 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Roman Haefeli <reduzent at gmail.com>
> > > To: pd-list at iem.at
> > > Cc:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended
> 0.43
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >>   Do you think that it helps
> > >>  making Pd be taken seriously ?
> > >
> > > Interesting question. I haven't thought about what could help make Pd
> be
> > > taken less or more seriously. Thinking about it, I feel that people
> > > often tend to take something seriously for odd reasons, like if has a
> > > 'nice' interface, if it costs much, if prominent person XY has a
> > > positive opinion about it, etc.
> > >
> > > Roman
> >
> > "Nice interface" does not belong in this list of odd reasons to take
> > a program seriously.
>
> Yeah, you're right. I should have said something else ('rounded
> corners'?)
>
> Roman
>
>
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