[PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

Ivica Bukvic ico at vt.edu
Sun Nov 25 00:39:11 CET 2012


You're very welcome! Glad to hear things worked out for you :-)

FWIW latest pd-l2ork release has a bug in creb externals. This has been
fixed in git but the new release candidate is at least a week or two out.
So, if you are using creb, try compiling from git.

Best wishes,

Ico
On Nov 24, 2012 5:59 PM, "Gerhard Lang" <lang.gerhard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tx Ivica and Esteban,
> as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this thread I followed this
>  recommendation, replaced pd and pd-extended with pd-l2ork.
> Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5 from kx-studio ppa, dsp is
> switchable, some other bugs are gone, my patches run :D
> You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork.
> Gerhard
>
> Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
>
>>
>> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except for the
>> one caused by jack which in your case should not be a problem unless you
>> physically disconnect (accidentally our otherwise) your audio hardware
>> while jack is running.
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros" <emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:
>> emviveros at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     HUm... Ok... I will try!
>>
>>     But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
>>
>>
>>     2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>
>>
>>         That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try
>>         pd-l2ork...
>>
>>         On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"
>>         <emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Ops...  I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and
>>             then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I
>>             don't have sound...
>>
>>             On messages box I have:
>>
>>             00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
>>
>>             00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
>>
>>             00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
>>
>>             00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
>>
>>             00:18:26.467 Client activated.
>>
>>             00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
>>
>>             00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
>>
>>             00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
>>
>>             00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
>>
>>             # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
>>
>>             # starting pulseaudio
>>
>>             # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
>>
>>             Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>>             Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>>             00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit
>>             status=256.
>>
>>             00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
>>
>>             00:19:44.311 Client activated.
>>
>>             00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
>>
>>             00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
>>
>>             00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
>>
>>             00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
>>
>>             00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>>             00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
>>
>>
>>             What can I do now?
>>
>>
>>
>>             2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>
>>
>>                 Hmmm... I can understand now...
>>
>>                 Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio
>>                 testing ppa
>>                 <https://launchpad.net/%**7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/**
>> testing <https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing>>
>>                 and the problem is the same... :(
>>
>>                 This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire
>>                 packages on version 1.9.9  but the package
>>                 libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
>>
>>                 The next step will be to compile jack packages on
>>                 version 1.9.9
>>
>>                 Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how can I
>>                 compile that? For that I need some help.
>>
>>                 Regards
>>
>>
>>                 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu
>>                 <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>
>>
>>                     See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>>
>>                     Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to
>>                     detect its soundcard has disconnected
>>
>>                     Could this be the difference between 1.9.8 and git
>>                     version?
>>
>>                     On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"
>>                     <robin at gareus.org <mailto:robin at gareus.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                     On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>>                     > All,
>>                     >
>>                     > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that
>>                     the default Jack server is
>>                     > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am
>>                     wrong but my understanding this
>>                     > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being
>>                     developed in parallel with 1.x
>>                     > series of regular jack.
>>
>>                     correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>>
>>                     > Either way, one of my concerns is that while in
>>                     the old jack when one
>>                     > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was
>>                     trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
>>                     > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>>
>>                     In my experience it stopped but never gracefully
>>                     (ie it crashed). but
>>                     it's been a while since I used jack1.
>>
>>                     > The new version (and this could
>>                     > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged
>>                     in some kind of a spinlock
>>                     > that often times locks up the machine (this may
>>                     be in part since I am
>>                     > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group
>>                     given priority) and at times
>>                     > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and
>>                     making the computer barely
>>                     > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps connected
>>                     to jack that I tested so
>>                     > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a
>>                     response from jack (although this
>>                     > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never
>>                     broadcasts a signal that it has
>>                     > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running
>>                     jackdmp through qjackctl...
>>                     > Any thoughts on this matter would be most
>>                     appreciated.
>>                     >
>>
>>                     I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend
>>                     when the device is
>>                     disconnected. You can switch to a new backend
>>                     using jack_control
>>                     (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without
>>                     re-starting jackd. No CPU
>>                     hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4
>>                     from git.
>>
>>                     robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
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