[PD] abstraction penalty benchmarks
Miller Puckette
msp at ucsd.edu
Fri Aug 9 20:42:47 CEST 2013
There still could be situations where an abstraction has a sub-patch ("pd foo"
for instance) - I'm not clear as to whether those namings should be supressed
as well. It seems like a tricky problem - lots of people seem to use
abstractions with only one instance and might be depending on the bindings.
Maybe the rule should be that before a canvas binds itself to the symbol
it checks to see if anyone else already did and if so silently refuses
(protected with a compatibility flag as usual).
cheers
M
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:15:52PM +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/08/13 04:27, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > Here's a guess - I think each copy of the abstraction binds itself to
> > a symbol, "pd-<name>". Binding is fast bt unbinding is linear-time in the
> > number of things bound to the symbol... ouch.
>
> Yes, I think that's it:
>
> git master from yesterday
> Pd-0.45.0 ("test") compiled 17:10:02 Aug 8 2013
> patch bench open dsp save close
> small 4.6e-05 38.775 1.34085 44.326 4.012
> medium 5.2e-05 314.812 10.2582 715.956 144.512
> large 4.7e-05 2639.28 85.3561 78711.5 35918
>
> git master, lightly patched with the attached
> Pd-0.45.0 ("test") compiled 14:36:39 Aug 9 2013
> patch bench open dsp save close
> small 4.3e-05 36.167 1.31707 39.657 3.447
> medium 4.4e-05 291.52 9.8958 327.389 18.067
> large 4.3e-05 2443.07 82.0808 3628.66 224.972
>
> > There's a good reason to bind toplevels and named sub-patches to ther names,
> > but I think there's little reason to do it for abstractions - perhaps I can
> > take this out, but I'd have to leave it as an option for compatibility (ouch!)
>
> The attached patch doesn't do this, but it should be easy to add a
> global compatibility flag to the new canvas_should_bind() function.
>
> Toplevel patches are still bound to pd-<name>.pd and subpatches [pd
> <name>] are still bound to pd-<name>; it's just abstraction instances
> that no longer have the automatic binding.
>
> > On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 10:46:24PM -0400, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >> On 08/08/2013 04:57 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>> The killer in the bottom right corner: with 8x as many abstractions, it
> >>> takes 100x as long to save an instance, and 200x as long to close the patch.
>
> [snip]
>
> >> Any idea why "save" is so much greater than close + open?
>
> I think Miller had the answer.
>
> >> Also, any idea what pd is doing for the bulk of that time when
>
> I haven't profiled yet (I had trouble even getting debug symbols into an
> installed Pd with the autoconf system, no success yet..), so the
> following are just guesses:
>
> >> saving
>
> searching for copies of the abstraction to reload, then reloading them
> via some select/cut/undo method (which preserves connections). also
> unbinding symbols...
>
> >> closing
>
> calling all the destructors. also unbinding symbols...
>
> >> opening
>
> refinding/reloading/reparsing/reinstantiating all the abstractions (I
> need to relocate my abstraction cache patches and update them to current Pd)
>
> >> dsp'ing?
>
> traversing each canvas to topologically sort its dsp objects and build
> the dsp chain - which gets resizebytes() each time something is added,
> could make it O(log(N)) count of resizes (doubling the size each time)
> but I tried it and it saved about 9 microseconds, not worth the extra
> complexity...
>
>
> Claude
> --
> http://mathr.co.uk
>
> From 16fd46b3abe83dba956b78385d01ad19737b6c76 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Claude Heiland-Allen <claude at mathr.co.uk>
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:57:14 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] don't bind abstraction instances to pd-<filename>
>
> ---
> src/g_canvas.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/src/g_canvas.c b/src/g_canvas.c
> index 804ac57..c7a22d6 100644
> --- a/src/g_canvas.c
> +++ b/src/g_canvas.c
> @@ -55,6 +55,9 @@ void canvas_reflecttitle(t_canvas *x);
> static void canvas_addtolist(t_canvas *x);
> static void canvas_takeofflist(t_canvas *x);
> static void canvas_pop(t_canvas *x, t_floatarg fvis);
> +static int canvas_should_bind(t_canvas *x);
> +static void canvas_bind(t_canvas *x);
> +static void canvas_unbind(t_canvas *x);
>
> /* --------- functions to handle the canvas environment ----------- */
>
> @@ -205,11 +208,9 @@ void canvas_makefilename(t_canvas *x, char *file, char *result, int resultsize)
>
> void canvas_rename(t_canvas *x, t_symbol *s, t_symbol *dir)
> {
> - if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
> - pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> + canvas_unbind(x);
> x->gl_name = s;
> - if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
> - pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> + canvas_bind(x);
> if (x->gl_havewindow)
> canvas_reflecttitle(x);
> if (dir && dir != &s_)
> @@ -379,8 +380,7 @@ t_canvas *canvas_new(void *dummy, t_symbol *sel, int argc, t_atom *argv)
> x->gl_owner = owner;
> x->gl_name = (*s->s_name ? s :
> (canvas_newfilename ? canvas_newfilename : gensym("Pd")));
> - if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
> - pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> + canvas_bind(x);
> x->gl_loading = 1;
> x->gl_goprect = 0; /* no GOP rectangle unless it's turned on later */
> /* cancel "vis" flag if we're a subpatch of an
> @@ -479,9 +479,8 @@ t_glist *glist_addglist(t_glist *g, t_symbol *sym,
> x->gl_screeny1 = GLIST_DEFCANVASYLOC;
> x->gl_screenx2 = 450;
> x->gl_screeny2 = 300;
> - if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
> - pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> x->gl_owner = g;
> + canvas_bind(x);
> x->gl_isgraph = 1;
> x->gl_goprect = 0;
> x->gl_obj.te_binbuf = binbuf_new();
> @@ -723,8 +722,7 @@ void canvas_free(t_canvas *x)
> canvas_vis(x, 0);
> if (x->gl_editor)
> canvas_destroy_editor(x); /* bug workaround; should already be gone*/
> - if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
> - pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> + canvas_unbind(x);
>
> if (x->gl_env)
> {
> @@ -985,6 +983,27 @@ int canvas_isabstraction(t_canvas *x)
> return (x->gl_env != 0);
> }
>
> + /* return true if the "canvas" object should be bound to a name */
> +static int canvas_should_bind(t_canvas *x)
> +{
> + /* FIXME should have a "backwards compatible" mode */
> + /* not named "Pd" && (is top level || is subpatch) */
> + return strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd") && (!x->gl_owner || !x->gl_env);
> +}
> +
> +static void canvas_bind(t_canvas *x)
> +{
> + if (canvas_should_bind(x))
> + pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> +}
> +
> +static void canvas_unbind(t_canvas *x)
> +{
> + if (canvas_should_bind(x))
> + pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
> +}
> +
> +
> /* return true if the "canvas" object should be treated as a text
> object. This is true for abstractions but also for "table"s... */
> /* JMZ: add a flag to gop-abstractions to hide the title */
> --
> 1.7.10.4
>
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