[PD] looking for other vanilla filters or abstractions for libPD

[Billy Stiltner]

https://archive.org/download/Xensynth10.01/xensynth10.18.BrooklynMoore.2.0.Edition.zip
has a few of the old DSP cookbook filters implemented in fexpr~

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Had to google to see why the relation to ircam, I understand now this was
> written as part of JMax, which has the GNU’s Lesser General Public License.
>
> cool
>
> I wonder if anyone still uses Jmax :)
>
> I really think Ircam shouldn't mind this at all, and it'd be great to see
> this issue finally over with
>
> again, is there anyone still using jmax?
>
> cheers
>
> 2015-11-09 4:33 GMT-02:00 Shahrokh Yadegari <sdy at ucsd.edu>:
>
>> I am happy to distribute expr/expr~/fexpr~ objects on BSD license. The
>> original expr code that I wrote at IRCAM, was made available as GLP by
>> IRCAM, and later they were kind enough to change that to LGPL. They may be
>> fine with BSD as well. I will ask and find out.
>>
>> best,
>> Shahrokh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> porres at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Shahrokh is working on a new release of the expr family of objects (0.5)
>>>
>>> I'm copying him here, and I wouldn't know what his restrictions or
>>> issues would be regarding the license. Maybe if properly discussed with
>>> him, we could find a way to choose a license that is suitable for the libpd
>>> apps.
>>>
>>> I agree that expr is essencial and such limitation would be bad for Pd
>>> apps.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> 2015-11-07 17:24 GMT-02:00 Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> thanks Jonathan. this is what i assumed re LGPL when i saw a discussion
>>>> about using fluidsynth in a build, which has a LGPL variant but not
>>>> anything more permissive. so one question would be if anyone here on the
>>>> list had a paid app rejected or accepted on the App Store due to using an
>>>> LGPL license? expr and expr~ are very useful for a variety of things but
>>>> for now i'm not using them due to this offchance.
>>>>
>>>> i would further guess that FSF's exact words on LGPL were probably
>>>> pretty dark on using the iTunes Store in general. i've seen some
>>>> announcements from them in the past that made it clear how they feel about
>>>> walled gardens.
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> scott
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <
>>>> pd-list at lists.iem.at> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > As of about 2 years ago, expr and relatives are LGPL and thus
>>>>> compatible with the App Store.
>>>>>
>>>>> I emailed the Free Software Foundation, who are the publishers of the
>>>>> LGPL.  They responded
>>>>> that the LGPL is not compatible with the restrictive terms of Apple's
>>>>> app store.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to ask them in advance if I could publicly post their
>>>>> response.  If they say I can do so, I'll post their actual response.
>>>>> But it sounded pretty clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose one could argue if it's a free app then who cares, and that
>>>>> the copyright holders of expr (or even Apple) are extremely unlikely to
>>>>> create a licensing fuss.    But then that's the case whether expr is GPL,
>>>>> LGPL, or even "don't use this to murder people with drones" license.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to write/use open source software that's compatible with
>>>>> Apple's app store, use
>>>>> the 3-clause BSD license.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Shahrokh Yadegari
>> Professor of Composition and Sound Design,
>> Theatre and Dance Department
>> University of California, San Diego
>> Director, Initiative for Digital Exploration of Arts and Science, (IDEAS)
>> California Institute for Telecommunications and Information Technologies
>> (Calit2)
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