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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gops have some specialities, which are not that
easy to deal with...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in every patch, which is used as a gop, two things
are saved: the canvas size of the normal patch (when opened) and the canvas
(coords) dimensions of the gop in the parent patch. if you use a text-editor to
look at the pd-patch then you look at the very first and last line of the
patch...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the x units p p and Y u p p are only related to the
size of the normal patch size (1/x-size and 1/Y-size). you can change them only
by adjusting the dimensions of the patch window (mousedragging) when the
gop-patch is opened.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the size of the gop (which will show in the parent
window) are changed by the properties-dialog of the parent-patch: create a gop
in a parent-patch, click properties, and then open the gop and save(!) it. now
the gop will remember these dimensions everytime you open or insert
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to have the same scaling like in the parent patch
the dimensions of the gop and the size of the gop patch should be
equal...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>besides the problems of the size, i also didn`t
like the name displaying in the gop (and also the borders, just my
opinion). so i always lay a canvas below all other stuff/objects in the
gop-patch. this has alos the advantage, that i know the size of the gop and
it is easier to scale the patch window with the mouse and the gop name does
not appear in the parent patch (it is hidden by the canvas).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>after the 10th gop i stopped doing this with
mouse-dragging and properties-editing, but started to change </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>this manually in a text-editor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and now there are still two problems left: if you
are on windows, the dimensions change (tcl/tk-specific-problem) by 2 pixels
everytime you open and save again... so you will have a lot of readjusting again
and again. and for any reason (which i dont know why) the x-size of the coords
has to be (sometimes) lower by a value of 2. sometimes. if your gop patch
canvas has the dimensions 300/200 then it is ok, the coords can also be 300/200.
but if the size is 302/202, still the coords must be 300/200. looks like a
rounding error, but could also be only windows-specific or a tcl/tk
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my experience is also, that graphics in gops
are slower...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>still, they are a good thing to use (for some
purposes).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>marius.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:buck@defaced.net" title=buck@defaced.net>Jordan J</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at"
title=pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at>pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [PD] Graph on Parent
questions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I've been attempting to use
graph on parent. Why is it that the scale of the parent-canvas is way
different than that of the subpatch? Is there a legitimate reason for
this? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Also, what are the functions
of the settings "X units per pixel" and "Y units per pixel" in the subpatch
properties area? I can't seem to change them when "graph on parent" is
on and when it's off, changing them doesn't do anything.
Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-
Jordan</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>