Miller Puckette <mpuckett@man104-1.ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Good idea... there could be some new "frame" object, which, if you had one
> in a patcher, would make the parent morph into a panel containing whatever
> was in the frame.  This would make it easy to throw comments around too.

I like the frame idea. While in my earlier GOP patches, I fiddled a long time to
arrange everything so that it displays usefully, I now just put a canvas object
inside the GOP patch, then arrange everything on top of that and put the logic
in a single pd-subpatch. Then I resize the GOP in the parent to fit the canvas'
size.

Now with your proposed frame object, the frame would take the place of the
canvas-object, resizing wouldn't be necessary and I would not need that
subpatch with inlets/outlets anymore. Great idea.

On a related topic: I never quite managed to use the data structure graphical
objects combined with GOP correctly in a pd-subpatch. As soon as I turn on
graph-on-parent in a data structure display subpatch, the resulting grey box on
the parent gets really big, I mean it gets *huge* and cannot be resized. Does
anyone here know what I'm doing wrong?? Or do data structures don't play well
with see-through GOPs?

(sorry for the long lines, I'm forced to use my provider's netmail software
currently, that's also why I cannot send an example patch)

ciao
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 Frank Barknecht                          _ ___footils.org_