Hi, Zitat von Olaf Matthes : > abel.jerome@free.fr schrieb: > > I've seen some patches PD on websites recommanded on the mailing list and > I'm a > > little disappointed. Just 10 or 15 patchs on the Web, it's a joke? No pun intended, but: You need to look harder. I alone have about a dozen on my site. Not all really useful, but some (mostly angriff and sseq) are very useful and I know that people do use them. Those two were specifically created to be re-useable on many occasions. > > Tell me more about the PD communauty, maybe the main purpose is to create > > externals? There is no main purpose. I'm sure, everyone does different things. For example a lot here use Pd for graphics, but I don't. > At the moment I'm trying to reuse one of my own patches I did about a > year ago but I realised very soon it would have been easier to create a > new one from scratch. (At least my) patches are growing all the time and > get 'dirty'. Hey, I can feel with you, Olaf ;) I would like to publish some more patches but most are too dirty, so I refrain from doing it and only publish what's understandable without much explanation. Well, thinking about this, I should sometime remove some older patches from my site, because they're such a mess... > [I don't know where creativity ends and 'presets' start. One of the very > good things about Pd is that everyone has to create it's own patches. > Like in the old days with analogue synthesizer _without_ factory presets > and 'custom memory banks' where everyone had to make ones own sound. It > helps you to create your individual sound because this sound is based on > your individual patches. I'll second that. Maybe the purpose, if there is such, of the Pd community is to help with "how do I do this and that". This can be done with sharing patches, but can also be done by simply answering the questions, that were asked. > But, yes, of course, we need example patches showing how to use the > objects. And, me culpa, I sometimes do use Pd's example patches as a > starting point for my own stuff.] But we all do! IMO Pd's example patches are a wonderful introduction to Pd and sound synthesis in general. I remember, though, that some of them were over my head when I started using Pd (some still are) but I can come back to them and still learn something new. Also people should really read the html-docs. But it's a known fact: Users don't read documentation. And developers don't write it. :) ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ___footils.org_