Hi, Zitat von oliver : > interesting stuff, however not fully working yet ;-) It is doing so here... ;) > when i create a slider i get an error message for each slider > > "error: ptrobj_next: no current pointer" This is a "known bug" with the "until" and the counting, which I didn't have time to fix anymore, because I really had to leave. It should work anyways, though. There's another small bug in slidertest.pd: The "1002-showme" somewhere inside should be "\$0-showme". When I get home again I'll fix up a newer version. But it even should work as it currently is, though maybe not with the two independent abstractions. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ___footils.org_