<DIV>Hi friends</DIV>
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<DIV>I have a question:</DIV>
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<DIV>Gem 0.90.0 runs with PD 0.38.2, in windows XP?</DIV>
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<DIV>I want to run the "counter" object, and it is not possible for me in PD 0.38.2.</DIV>
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<DIV>The same patch don't have problems in PD. 0.37.0</DIV>
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<DIV>can someone help me,</DIV>
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<DIV>sorry for my bad english</DIV>
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<DIV>regards</DIV>
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<DIV>Chrs<BR><BR><B><I>pd-list-request@iem.at</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Send PD-list mailing list submissions to<BR>pd-list@iem.at<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>pd-list-request@iem.at<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>pd-list-admin@iem.at<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>1. v4l permissions (derek holzer)<BR>2. Re: compiling (adding objs to) GEM on OS X-- seeking advice (0001)<BR>3. R: [PD] v4l permissions (Davide Morelli)<BR>4. pdrc file (manuel knapp)<BR>5. Re: pdrc file (Thomas Ouellet Fredericks)<BR>6. touch pad (robertgarvin@bellsouth.net)<BR>7. Re: touch pad (Thomas Ouellet Fredericks)<BR>8. RE: touch pad (robertgarvin@bellsouth.net)<BR>9. Re: touch pad (Thomas
Ouellet Fredericks)<BR>10. Re: touch pad (robertgarvin@bellsouth.net)<BR>11. Re: pd on xp (Andres Cabrera)<BR>12. configure error: 0.38-2 osx (Julian Peterson)<BR>13. Re: touch pad (Thomas Ouellet Fredericks)<BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 07:20:55 +0100<BR>From: derek holzer <DEREK@X-I.NET><BR>To: pd-list <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: [PD] v4l permissions<BR><BR>Can anybody help me work out how to automatically set permissions for my <BR>video4linux USB webcam device. If I modprobe "pwc" as root, it loads <BR>fine, but I still have to manually set permissions for myself to access <BR>/dev/video0 (and the actual /dev/v4l/video0 that /dev/video0 is a <BR>symlink to) as a user. Suggestions? I didn't seem to have this problem <BR>on my last setup...<BR><BR>derek<BR><BR>-- <BR>derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl<BR>---Oblique Strategy # 36:<BR>"Consult other sources<BR>-promising<BR>-unpromising"<BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Cc: pd mailing
list <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>From: 0001 <0001@ooo000ooo.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] compiling (adding objs to) GEM on OS X-- seeking advice<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:32:32 +0100<BR>To: zack <ZACK@SAT.QC.CA><BR><BR>you should try the gem-dev list<BR>http://iem.at/mailinglists/gem-dev/2005-02/005992.html<BR><BR>.<BR>g<BR><BR>El 18/02/2005, a las 0:51, zack escribi=F3:<BR><BR>> I would like to compile some additional GEM objects for OS X. Has=20<BR>> anyone out there done this?<BR>> I assume that doing so requires setting up a compilable version of=20=<BR><BR>> GEM on my Mac OS X machine first.<BR>> This is where I could use a hand, knowing where to find gem-lib for OS=20=<BR><BR>> X, and how to go about getting it all to compile.<BR>><BR>> Any advice, or links would be appreciated.<BR>><BR>> --Zack Settel<BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and
account-management ->=20<BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>From: "Davide Morelli" <INFO@DAVIDEMORELLI.IT><BR>To: "derek holzer" <DEREK@X-I.NET><BR>Cc: "PD list" <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: R: [PD] v4l permissions<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:41:20 +0100<BR><BR>you can try editing<BR>/etc/security/console.perms <BR><BR>find and modify the v4l group<BR><BR>ciao,<BR>davide.<BR><BR><BR>> -----Messaggio originale-----<BR>> Da: pd-list-admin@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at]Per conto di derek<BR>> holzer<BR>> Inviato: domenica 20 febbraio 2005 7.21<BR>> A: pd-list<BR>> Oggetto: [PD] v4l permissions<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Can anybody help me work out how to automatically set permissions for my <BR>> video4linux USB webcam device. If I modprobe "pwc" as root, it loads <BR>> fine, but I still have to manually set permissions for myself to access <BR>> /dev/video0 (and the actual
/dev/v4l/video0 that /dev/video0 is a <BR>> symlink to) as a user. Suggestions? I didn't seem to have this problem <BR>> on my last setup...<BR>> <BR>> derek<BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl<BR>> ---Oblique Strategy # 36:<BR>> "Consult other sources<BR>> -promising<BR>> -unpromising"<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>> <BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>From: "manuel knapp" <MANUEL.KNAPP@CHELLO.AT><BR>To: "pdlist" <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:15:59 +0100<BR>Subject: [PD] pdrc file<BR><BR>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.<BR><BR>------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C5175F.15519FD0<BR>Content-Type: text/plain;<BR>charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<BR><BR>can anybody tell me how to create .pdrc
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>thanx</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C5175F.15519FD0--<BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>From: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks" <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: "manuel knapp" <MANUEL.KNAPP@CHELLO.AT>,<BR>"pdlist" <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] pdrc file<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:44:27 -0500<BR><BR>1) Create a TEXT file NOT a RTF file.<BR>2) Type all your options in it (ex: -lib Gem)<BR>3) Save it in your home directory as pdrc<BR>4) open a terminal window (in the terminal window, you should already be in <BR>your home directory, if not type ~)<BR>5) type mv pdrc .pdrc<BR>Done<BR><BR>Step 5 changes the name of the file pdrc to .pdrc<BR>pdrc will become invisible<BR><BR>You can also download a os x tool to view invisible files if you do not want <BR>to use the terminal<BR><BR><BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: manuel knapp<BR>To: pdlist<BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:15 AM<BR>Subject:
[PD] pdrc file<BR><BR><BR>can anybody tell me how to create .pdrc file in osx?<BR><BR>thanx <BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 6<BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:28:40 -0500<BR>Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR>is there a way to use the touchpad of a laptop in pd? maybe as a pressure sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>-Robert<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 7<BR>From: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks" <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET>,<BR><PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:14:54 -0500<BR><BR>Do you have a synaptics touchpad and run XP?<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR><BR>> is there a way to use the touchpad of a laptop
in pd? maybe as a pressure <BR>> sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my <BR>> dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>> -Robert<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>> <BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 8<BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>CC: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: RE: [PD] touch pad<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:22:13 -0500<BR><BR>i am using windows XP, but I can't find any properties or drivers that tell me the brand of the touchpad<BR>-robert<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Thomas Ouellet Fredericks [mailto:iamonthebeach@hotmail.com] <BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:15 PM<BR>To: robertgarvin@bellsouth.net; pd-list@iem.at<BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR>Do you have a synaptics touchpad
and run XP?<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR><BR>> is there a way to use the touchpad of a laptop in pd? maybe as a pressure <BR>> sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my <BR>> dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>> -Robert<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 9<BR>From: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks" <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:51:27 -0500<BR><BR>Check under : control panel / system / hardware tab/ device manager/ mice <BR>and other
pointing devices<BR><BR>It has to say something like : Synaptics ps/2 port pointing device.<BR><BR>If you do have a synaptics, install the proper drivers and then try my <BR>experimental external:<BR><BR>http://ciam.dyndns.org/~vitamin/danslchamp/lpn/travaux/synaptics.zip<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:22 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR><BR>>i am using windows XP, but I can't find any properties or drivers that <BR>>tell me the brand of the touchpad<BR>> -robert<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Thomas Ouellet Fredericks [mailto:iamonthebeach@hotmail.com]<BR>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:15 PM<BR>> To: robertgarvin@bellsouth.net; pd-list@iem.at<BR>> Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>><BR>> Do you have a synaptics touchpad and run XP?<BR>><BR>> Tom<BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>> To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>> Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR>><BR>><BR>>> is there a way to use the touchpad of a laptop in pd? maybe as a pressure<BR>>> sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my<BR>>> dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>>> -Robert<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><BR>>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>> <BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 10<BR>From:
<ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>CC: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:12:49 -0500<BR><BR>ok... it doesn't say "Synaptics ps/2 port pointing device."<BR>here's the deal: <BR>I have a touchpad in the standard spot, and a lil blue nub in the middle of my keyboard, that's also a mouse. then I have a kensington mouse to make life easier. I have also used a small micro-mini optical mouse (micro innovations) for use in class, but it's not hooked up.<BR>I looked in the device manager, and this is what I found:<BR>|->Kensington HID Mouse*in*a*Box Optical Elite<BR>|->Kensington PS/2 Mouse Driver<BR><BR>so that's what I've found. I'm gonna try and see if your external will work.<BR>Thanks for your help,<BR>Robert<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Thomas Ouellet Fredericks [mailto:iamonthebeach@hotmail.com] <BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:51 PM<BR>To: robertgarvin@bellsouth.net<BR>Cc:
pd-list@iem.at<BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR>Check under : control panel / system / hardware tab/ device manager/ mice <BR>and other pointing devices<BR><BR>It has to say something like : Synaptics ps/2 port pointing device.<BR><BR>If you do have a synaptics, install the proper drivers and then try my <BR>experimental external:<BR><BR>http://ciam.dyndns.org/~vitamin/danslchamp/lpn/travaux/synaptics.zip<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:22 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR><BR>>i am using windows XP, but I can't find any properties or drivers that <BR>>tell me the brand of the touchpad<BR>> -robert<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Thomas Ouellet Fredericks [mailto:iamonthebeach@hotmail.com]<BR>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:15 PM<BR>> To: robertgarvin@bellsouth.net;
pd-list@iem.at<BR>> Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>><BR>> Do you have a synaptics touchpad and run XP?<BR>><BR>> Tom<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>> To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>> Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR>><BR>><BR>>> is there a way to use the touchpad of a laptop in pd? maybe as a pressure<BR>>> sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my<BR>>> dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>>> -Robert<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><BR>>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and
account-management -> <BR>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 11<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:18:26 -0500<BR>From: Andres Cabrera <ANDRES@GEMINIFLUX.COM><BR>To: king s <MANUEL.KNAPP@CHELLO.AT><BR>CC: pd-list@iem.at<BR>Subject: Re: [PD] pd on xp<BR><BR>Hi,<BR>Does a DOS window appear momentarily and then close? If so, you may have <BR>a problem with an installer being designed for english XP operation <BR>system. You can fix the problem going to the directory where pd is <BR>intalled and modify the pd.bat file to point to the correct place where <BR>pd.exe is located.<BR>Cheers,<BR>Andres<BR><BR>king s wrote:<BR>> hi!<BR>> <BR>> i have a problem...i´ve worked with pd and anythhing was ok.then i´ve <BR>> installed my windows xp for new.then i´ve downloaded and installed the <BR>> newest version of pd.now i start the pd.exe and nothing happen...i can <BR>> see the pd.exe and wish84.exe in my
taskmanager but only there.the <BR>> process is runnig but i dont see anything of the program interface or <BR>> something.<BR>> shit ...i don´t know why or what<BR>> please help me to get my pd to run<BR>> thanks<BR>> manuel knapp<BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 12<BR>To: pd-list@iem.at<BR>From: Julian Peterson <JULIANPETERSON@MAC.COM><BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:37:15 -0500<BR>Subject: [PD] configure error: 0.38-2 osx<BR><BR>I put up a post recently that might have been a bit confusing because <BR>jack was written in the subject line (although thanks to all of you who <BR>responded). My problem is not using pd with jack (yet). I'm having <BR>trouble getting pd's configure script to find my installed tcl/tk <BR>libraries.<BR><BR>I've got Tcl/Tk 8.4 installed in the standard <BR>/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework and ./Tk.framework (Batteries <BR>Included Installer...), yet running ./configure (ignoring jack for now) <BR>fails with:<BR><BR>checking tcl.h
usability... yes<BR>checking tcl.h presence... yes<BR>checking for tcl.h... yes<BR>checking for main in -ltcl8.7... no<BR>...<BR>checking for main in -ltcl8.4... yes<BR>checking for main in -ltk8.7... no<BR>...<BR>checking for main in -ltk8.4... no<BR>...<BR>no tk library found<BR>configure: creating ./config.status<BR>config.status: creating makefile<BR><BR>Anyone else experience this? Know a good workaround? The only thing I <BR>can think of that might be confusing this that I have tcl/tk installed <BR>as part of the fink collection as well, although if I remove the fink <BR>version of tcl/tk it has no effect on my present difficulties with PD.<BR><BR>Thanks again... I'm an avid user of PD (have been for over a year now) <BR>but am not a programmer at all, so I hope this isn't something *too* <BR>obvious....<BR>-Julian Peterson<BR><BR><BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 13<BR>From: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks" <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks"
<IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM>,<BR><ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:57:33 -0500<BR><BR>oh yeah, you have to boot your system without the external mouse.<BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Thomas Ouellet Fredericks" <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:51 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR><BR><BR>> Check under : control panel / system / hardware tab/ device manager/ mice <BR>> and other pointing devices<BR>><BR>> It has to say something like : Synaptics ps/2 port pointing device.<BR>><BR>> If you do have a synaptics, install the proper drivers and then try my <BR>> experimental external:<BR>><BR>> http://ciam.dyndns.org/~vitamin/danslchamp/lpn/travaux/synaptics.zip<BR>><BR>> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
<ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>> To: <IAMONTHEBEACH@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> Cc: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:22 PM<BR>> Subject: RE: [PD] touch pad<BR>><BR>><BR>>>i am using windows XP, but I can't find any properties or drivers that <BR>>>tell me the brand of the touchpad<BR>>> -robert<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>> From: Thomas Ouellet Fredericks [mailto:iamonthebeach@hotmail.com]<BR>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:15 PM<BR>>> To: robertgarvin@bellsouth.net; pd-list@iem.at<BR>>> Subject: Re: [PD] touch pad<BR>>><BR>>> Do you have a synaptics touchpad and run XP?<BR>>><BR>>> Tom<BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>> From: <ROBERTGARVIN@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>>> To: <PD-LIST@IEM.AT><BR>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>>> Subject: [PD] touch pad<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> is there a
way to use the touchpad of a laptop in pd? maybe as a <BR>>>> pressure<BR>>>> sesitive something or other.. I searched for the properties of it on my<BR>>>> dell, and couldn't find anything.<BR>>>> -Robert<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><BR>>>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list<BR>>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>>
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