Thanks for the response!<br><br>I thought they were part of the cyclone library because this page seems to say so:<br><a href="http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html">http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html
</a><br><br>And plus I was using >~ under Linux with only the cyclone library loaded.<br><br>However, I'll definitely give your suggestion a try.<br>Since my post, I have also discovered the "expr~" object, which seems to be able to do what I want.
<br><br>Thanks,<br>Steve<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/8/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</b> <<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I am pretty sure that <~, >~, and ==~ are not in cyclone, but in zexy<br>in the form of abstractions/Pd objects. In RC5 you can load them by<br>typing [zexy/<~], [zexy/>~], or [zexy/==~]. Or you could can add the
<br>zexy folder to the path, something like this:<br><br>/Users/steve/Desktop/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/<br>extra/zexy<br><br>It the upcoming RC6, zexy is a libdir, so you'll be able to load it by<br>adding "zexy" to the Startup preferences.
<br><br>.hc<br><br><br>On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Steve wrote:<br><br>> Hi,<br>> First of all, thanks to everyone who's worked on PD, it's a fantastic<br>> program.<br>> Here's a small problem I'm having, I was wondering if I could get some
<br>> help:<br>> I recently built some patches using certain cyclone objects, such as<br>> <~, >~, and ==~.<br>> I built them under Linux on my laptop, however, when I came to school<br>> to try them out on the macs, PD refused to create those objects.
<br>> It is able to load other cyclone objects like cosx~, but not <~ or >~.<br>> The version I am using at home is whatever is currently in Gentoo.<br>> The version I'm using on OS X is Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC5
.<br>><br>> When I load cyclone under Linux (pd -lib cyclone), I get a message<br>> such as "this is cyclone version....", but I get no such message under<br>> OS X.<br>> By the way, I don't have admin access to these computers so I must run
<br>> PD as a regular using, in the .app folder, so installing libs to the<br>> main filesystem is out of question.<br>><br>> Thanks for any help you can suggest...<br>><br>><br>> Steve<br>><br>>
<br>> For completeness, here is the verbose output from the startup sequence:<br>><br>> input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>> input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>> input device 0, channels 2<br>
> output device 2, channels 2<br>> framesperbuf 64, nbufs 34<br>> ... opened OK.<br>> tried /cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd
<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>> cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>> cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>> 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/
<br>> cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>> extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone.pd_darwin<br>> and failed
<br>> tried /cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>
> cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>> cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed
<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>> 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/<br>> cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried
<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>> extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>> cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>> tried /cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed
<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>> cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>> tried<br>
> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>> 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>> cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>> tried<br>> /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd
<br>> -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/<br>> cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>> tried<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>> extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>> cyclone.pd and succeeded<br>> Added to search path:<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>> 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone
<br>> Added to help path:<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>> extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone<br>> Added to help path:<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-
<br>> 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../doc/5.reference/<br>> cyclone<br>> Loaded libdir cyclone from<br>> /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>> extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone<br>><br>> [... etc, etc... loads GEM and all other libraries successfully...]<br>><br>><br>><br>> Creating an object called <~ gives me:<br>><br>> <~
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