Thanks for the response!<br><br>I thought they were part of the cyclone library because this page seems to say so:<br><a href="http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html">http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html
</a><br><br>And plus I was using &gt;~ under Linux with only the cyclone library loaded.<br><br>However, I'll definitely give your suggestion a try.<br>Since my post, I have also discovered the &quot;expr~&quot; object, which seems to be able to do what I want.
<br><br>Thanks,<br>Steve<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/8/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I am pretty sure that &lt;~, &gt;~, and ==~ are not in cyclone, but in zexy<br>in the form of abstractions/Pd objects.&nbsp;&nbsp;In RC5 you can load them by<br>typing [zexy/&lt;~], [zexy/&gt;~], or [zexy/==~].&nbsp;&nbsp;Or you could can add the
<br>zexy folder to the path, something like this:<br><br>/Users/steve/Desktop/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/<br>extra/zexy<br><br>It the upcoming RC6, zexy is a libdir, so you'll be able to load it by<br>adding &quot;zexy&quot; to the Startup preferences.
<br><br>.hc<br><br><br>On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Steve wrote:<br><br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt; First of all, thanks to everyone who's worked on PD, it's a fantastic<br>&gt; program.<br>&gt; Here's a small problem I'm having, I was wondering if I could get some
<br>&gt; help:<br>&gt; I recently built some patches using certain cyclone objects, such as<br>&gt; &lt;~, &gt;~, and ==~.<br>&gt; I built them under Linux on my laptop, however, when I came to school<br>&gt; to try them out on the macs, PD refused to create those objects.
<br>&gt; It is able to load other cyclone objects like cosx~, but not &lt;~ or &gt;~.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;The version I am using at home is whatever is currently in Gentoo.<br>&gt; The version I'm using on OS X is Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC5
.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; When I load cyclone under Linux (pd -lib cyclone), I get a message<br>&gt; such as &quot;this is cyclone version....&quot;, but I get no such message under<br>&gt; OS X.<br>&gt; By the way, I don't have admin access to these computers so I must run
<br>&gt; PD as a regular using, in the .app folder, so installing libs to the<br>&gt; main filesystem is out of question.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks for any help you can suggest...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Steve<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; For completeness, here is the verbose output from the startup sequence:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>&gt; input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>&gt; input device 0, channels 2<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;output device 2, channels 2<br>&gt; framesperbuf 64, nbufs 34<br>&gt; ... opened OK.<br>&gt; tried /cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd
<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>&gt; cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>&gt; cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>&gt; 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/
<br>&gt; cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>&gt; extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone.pd_darwin<br>&gt; and failed
<br>&gt; tried /cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>
&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed
<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>&gt; 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/<br>&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried
<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>&gt; extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>&gt; cyclone.pd_darwin and failed<br>&gt; tried /cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed
<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>
&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>&gt; 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/memento/<br>&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /private/Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd
<br>&gt; -0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/toxy/<br>&gt; cyclone/cyclone.pd and failed<br>&gt; tried<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>&gt; extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone/<br>&gt; cyclone.pd and succeeded<br>&gt; Added to search path:<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-<br>&gt; 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone
<br>&gt; Added to help path:<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>&gt; extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone<br>&gt; Added to help path:<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-
<br>&gt; 0.38.4-extended-RC5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../doc/5.reference/<br>&gt; cyclone<br>&gt; Loaded libdir cyclone from<br>&gt; /Network/Servers/borges.mt.lan/Volumes/home/sinclairs/Pd-0.38.4-<br>&gt; extended-RC5.app
/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/cyclone<br>&gt;<br>&gt; [... etc, etc... loads GEM and all other libraries successfully...]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Creating an object called &lt;~ gives me:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;~
<br>&gt; ... couldn't create<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>&gt; UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -&gt;
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