Rich! You tried to load my .pdsettings (not compatible with pd-extended), not Hans'.<br>
<br>
Ascii is a library for converting numerical values into their ascii
equivalent. It was created by Marc Lavallée and should be included in
pd-extended/committed to cvs. Very usefull for serial communication.<br>
<br>
Tom<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/31/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</b> <<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hans@eds.org
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="direction: ltr;"><br><div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><div>On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Rich E wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">I tried Hans' .pdsettings and Pd tells me:<br> <br>
em: can't load library<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>Is the Gem with the Gem cut off?</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite"> /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux:
libgslcblas.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory<br> pdp: can't load library<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>You'll need to install libgslcblas.so.0
:</div><div><br></div><div>apt-get install libgsl0</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite"> gridflow: can't load library<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;">
<div>GridFlow
is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in the .pdsettings
file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite"> ascii: can't load library<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;">
<div>Neither is this, I don't know what that is. Its not in the .pdsettings I generated either.</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br>
So, I took Tom's advice and added paths for all the subfolders in
/usr/lib/pd/extra. Many more things work now, but about 1/4 of
everything is missing still. There are all some object
errors. Here are some of the most recent that I ran into in my
day's exploration:<br> </blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite">ext13 - [cdplayer]<br> load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found<br> cdplayer<br> ... couldn't create<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span>
</div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>Donno if anyone is maintaining that...</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite">vasp library missing, but help files are there<br> [pool] and [OSC] not there. [Gem] too... but I think you have mentioned this isn't possible yet.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>On
GNU/Linux, those aren't included yet. But I am working on finding
people to help me get it included. I need help with getting flext
and Gem building with Pd-extended. Any volunteers?</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite">On
the positive side, the Pd Documentation Browser is really nice in
39.2. References and manuals are easy to find. On the
negative side, right-click helps don't work, I probably have to add a
-helppath flag for every subfolder in the pd/doc/5.reference
folder. I'd like to help do what I can, but I think most of my
problems are because I cannot load the 'libdirs' as your .pdsettings
file does. <br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>The libdir thing will handle the helppaths.</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite">
<br>
I hate to always ask questions about why things aren't working... but
dernit, this program has a steap learning curve and I'm working on
it. You guys do amazing work and I'm determined to get up to
speed at the risk of being annoying.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>It
does indeed, but I don't think anyone thinks this is a good
thing. Its just a matter of doing the work to make things run
smoothly. One thing you could do is document your process of
trying to get things working. You can get a free site on <a href="http://puredata.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">puredata.org</a> and make a wiki page there, or whatever.</div>
<div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span> <br> Richie<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><span class="gmail_quote">
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</b> <<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hans@eds.org</a>><br>Date: Mar 30, 2006 9:51 PM <br>
Subject: Re: [PD] can't use Pd-extended externals<br>To: <a href="mailto:tom@danslchamp.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">tom@danslchamp.org</a><br>Cc: pd-list <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
pd-list@iem.at</a>><br><br></span><div style="direction: ltr;"> <br><div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><div>On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings
<br> My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd <br>
I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick
in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on
the great job.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>Thanks,
its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I guess I
am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk of work in.</div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite">I
do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy, cyclone,
hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches those folders
for the external?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>Yeah,
is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further into a
generic library format for objects written in any language, C, C++, Pd,
C#, python, whatever. This would be in conjunction with Thomas'
loader extension and things like the Common Language Runtime API for Pd
that was recently announced.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually implemented:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir</a></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span><br><blockquote type="cite">Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try to help.<br></blockquote> <div><br>
</div></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div>Excellent! The more, the merrier :)</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br> Tom<br> <br> .pdsettings contents follows:<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try this .pdsettings file:
</div><div><br></div><div></div></div> </div><br><div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br> audioapi: 2<br> noaudioin: False<br> audioindev1: 0 2<br> noaudioout: False<br>
audiooutdev1: 0 2<br> audiobuf: 50<br> rate: 44100<br> nomidiin: True<br> nomidiout: True<br> path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra<br> path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions<br> npath: 2<br> standardpath: 1<br> verbose: 0
<br> loadlib1: Gem<br> loadlib2: pdp<br> loadlib3: zexy<br> loadlib4: gridflow<br> loadlib5: ascii<br> nloadlib: 5<br> defeatrt: 0<br> flags: <br> <br> <br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/30/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Hans-Christoph Steiner</b> <<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> hans@eds.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/ <br>libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future<br>packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I<br>haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
<br><br>Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended: <br><br>Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list-<br>abs mapping mar<br>kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango
<br>pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample <br><br>This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:<br><br><a href="http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd-" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd-</a><br>settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log<br><br>Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this<br>script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
<br><br>.hc<br><br>On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:<br><br>> You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back<br>> into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths
<br>> to your Path... submenu in PD.<br>><br>> Tom<br>><br>> On 3/30/06, Rich E <<a href="mailto:reakinator@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">reakinator@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:<br>>> Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? <br>>> I have<br>>> both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem:<br>>> none of<br>>> the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the
<br>>> externals in<br>>> pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are <br>>> not<br>>> locatable within Pd.<br>>><br>>> Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any
<br>>> libraries<br>>> that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.<br>>><br> >> Thanks for any help,<br>>> Richie<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>
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