<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><SPAN></SPAN><BR><DIV><DIV>On 17-Apr-06, at 8:42 PM, alexandre matheson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><DIV><DIV>On 17-Apr-06, at 7:59 PM, derek holzer wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Roman Haefeli wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">i just checked the code: it seems like changing the page moves some gui-objs out of the gop-window and others into the window with [pos X Y(-messages.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Send messages to resize your GUI objects to/from 0 width or 0 height. They effectively "don't exist" if they are zero pixels high or wide (although they still use some CPU resources). You could even do it with [line], so that they seem to fade out or drop down.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I tried this and it refused to resize below 2 by 8 on a hslider which is too bad cause using line to make it morph is a really cool idea.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Maybe you could reuse the same gui objects for different parameters by changing the send (see attached patch). The big problem with this is storing the settings and having them recalled when you move from one parameter to another.</DIV><DIV><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><DIV><guithing.pd></DIV></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN></SPAN><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">d.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">derek holzer ::: <A href="http://www.umatic.nl">http://www.umatic.nl</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">---Oblique Strategy # 14:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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