<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">The only issue with the Max ToolBox is that it has this funny tendancy to cause Max to act rather odd. Its not a built in function in Max, but rather a set of javascript addons. So make sure its a part of PD proper, or an extension that doesnt <I>suck ass</I>. Ive had to remove my max toolbox as it just caused issues. 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