<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>That feature was introduced in 0.39, therefore its included in the 0.39.2 builds of Pd-extended, which are currently test releases:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jun 16, 2006, at 6:57 PM, sokratesla wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV># I realized that there are some differences between the original Pd version at <A href="http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html">http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html</A> and the pd-extended version, when I started to learn how to use the "graph on parent" ability. Recently there is a pure-data version 0.39.2, and <SPAN class="link-external"><A href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55736&package_id=76013"><FONT color="#000000">pd-extended</FONT></A> version 0.38.4. In 0.39 you can define the dimensions of the graph at its properties window, but this ability is not in Extended. </SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="link-external"># Is the version of Pd-Extended 0.38.4, because it is based on standart Pd ver 0.38?</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="link-external"># Is there a way to combine old-extended version with the new simple version? (in order to be able to use the advanced graph-on-parent options)</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="link-external">-ugur guney-</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>