<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:26 PM, chris clepper wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 12/4/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</B> <<A href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</A>> wrote:<DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote"></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <BR><BR><BR>Ok, wait I think I misunderstood. You are saying that the ancient<BR>ATI card in the autobuild machines might support the nvidia<BR>extensions, and they are being properly detected. I thought you mean<BR>whether the card was nvidia or not (neither are). </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR>There are extensions to OpenGL which are vendor specific and some vendors may support ones that are not their own. In this case glDeleteProgramsNV has to do with vertex and fragment shaders and Nvidia had their own extension before it was approved by the review board for full GL status. I think that glDeleteProgramsNV could be removed since glDeleteProgramsARB covers the same functionality. <BR></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">It seems to load from the command line with -nogui, I am testing now<BR>whether I can load an object. </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR>The ATI drivers should not define the NV extension in the headers if it is not supported by the driver. All GEM does is have an #ifdef for the presence of that extension and then builds with it enabled or not. <BR><BR>So, does the autobuild GEM run on the autobuild machine?</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Yup, Gem loads and so does [gemwin]. An ATI from 1998 supports some NVidia extensions that a current ATI does not support, crazy...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am thinking for the Pd-0.39.2-extended release, Gem should be compiled with --disable-NV, but it can stay as is on the nightly builds if that's useful to y'all.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>All information should be free. - the hacker ethic</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>