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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp; Keep in mind that GEM builds a graph
based on the pointers when you turn on rendering.&nbsp; Pix_invert and pix_record
are both using that same pointer, and the [t] object is simply controlling the
order of the graph that is constructed.&nbsp; In fact, when rendering, the [t]
object doesn&#8217;t get any messages at all&#8230;all messages/events are
happening in that constructed graph.&nbsp; This basically the same as how the ~
objects work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp; Reversing the order pix_invert and
pix_record will still apply the invert&#8230;it will just happen after the
pix_record happens.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
pd-list-bounces@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>chris clepper<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 07, 2006
10:07 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Mathieu Bouchard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> pd-liste; vincent Rioux;
IOhannes m zmoelnig<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] pix_record mixed
pixes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 12/7/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mathieu Bouchard</span></b>
&lt;<a href="mailto:matju@artengine.ca">matju@artengine.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<br>
what's a lot more surprising is that<br>
<br>
[pix_video]<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;|<br>
[pix_gain]<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;|<br>
[t a a]<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp; |<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;[pix_invert]<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;|<br>
[pix_record]<br>
<br>
actually applies [pix_invert], because gem messages handle pix (and all <br>
the other state) by pointer, so that the pix seemingly sent from<br>
[pix_gain] to [pix_record] is actually modified although the message sent<br>
isn't modified.<br>
<br>
This doesn't necessarily happen in other video plugins. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Reversing the order of pix_invert and pix_record won't apply the inversion
though.&nbsp; That would be consistent with the rest of Pd messaging right?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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