<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ok, I don't think there was any confusion. But any testing you are willing to do would make the Pd-extended release that much better, so you won't have to compile from scratch in the future :)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Kevin McCoy wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hans, Marius,<BR><BR>Sorry, all I wanted to say was that it wasn't working in the extended builds at that point and hadn't been for a long time. Recompiling PDP on my own did it for me. Apologies for any confusion :) My libquicktime came from Debian's package. <BR><BR>Kevin<BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 4/26/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Hans-Christoph Steiner</B> <<A href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <BR>Ok, pdp and pidip should now include quicktime support, if anyone<BR>wants to test:<BR><BR><A href="http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-04-26/">http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-04-26/</A><BR><BR> libavcodec hasn't been working, so it might not be able to do much yet.<BR><BR>.hc<BR><BR>On Apr 23, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Tim Boykett wrote:<BR><BR>><BR>> The "QaD" method (creating pdp and pidip objects) works fine. <BR>> Now I can get pdp_glx running a window in Xwindows and pdp_noise<BR>> works too. pdp_qt is not being created. pdp_ieee1394 is also<BR>> not created.<BR>><BR>> Do I need any specific things for quicktime? <BR>><BR>> I was also looking for the gem <--> pdp "conversion" things<BR>> and could not find anything.....<BR>><BR>> tim<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 23/04/2007, at 6:45 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: <BR>><BR>>><BR>>> That error message actually is a mistake and you can ignore it.<BR>>> It'll be removed in the next release.<BR>>><BR>>> It sounds like pdp and pidip are not loaded. Did you see their <BR>>> version messages in the Pd window? You can do the quick and dirty<BR>>> way of loading them: just create an object called "pdp" and then<BR>>> "pidip". It'll load the library, then fail to create the object. <BR>>> But then the libs will be loaded.<BR>>><BR>>> .hc<BR>>><BR>>> On Apr 20, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Joseph Gray wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> I'm receiving the same error as well. Running on a G5 with OS X <BR>>>> 10.3.9<BR>>>><BR>>>> Missing Libraries? need X11?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Or do I simply stick with Quartz Composer?<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> The writer Tim Boykett writ: <BR>>>> <BR>>>> Hi,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Trying to get it up, using 39.2-rc1, nothing from pdp is working<BR>>>> at all.<BR>>>> So the rest of you are having at least more luck than me.... <BR>>>> <BR>>>> I am also getting the message<BR>>>> <BR>>>> error: to function, this needs to be compiled against Pd 0.40 or<BR>>>> higher,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> or a version that has sys_register_loader() <BR>>>> libdir loader $Revision: 1.5 $<BR>>>> written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <<A href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</A>><BR>>>> compiled on Apr 14 2007 at 05:11:51<BR>>>> compiled against Pd version 0.39.2.extended-RC1<BR>>>> <BR>>>> at the very start; i.e. this is the first thing in the PD window.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Question: What things might I need from Fink that I might not have <BR>>>> right now? Are there any things I should _not_ have?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Okay; I would really like to see this working, so I do not have to<BR>>>> learn about Jitter :-><BR> >>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Tim<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> On 20/04/2007, at 7:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> > same here. hmm, at least, when X11 is running, then it is<BR>>>> possible to<BR>>>> > use pdp_glx for output. and for input I used pdp_noise just to<BR>>>> see<BR>>>> > what <BR>>>> > is happening, and that combination gices me an output window<BR>>>> and a<BR>>>> > working patch (both in test6 and rc2).<BR>>>> > I think for input I want to use pdp_qt? or what is another <BR>>>> object for<BR>>>> > live input?<BR>>>> > marius.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >> pdp_v4l won't work on Mac OS X, since v4l = video4linux. As for <BR>>>> >> what to<BR>>>> >> do about getting pdp_xv to work, I have no idea. I tried a<BR>>>> bit, and<BR>>>> >> only succeeded in getting Pd to crash. [pdp_sdl] is built in <BR>>>> >> there, but<BR>>>> >> doesn't seem to do anything but crash. Here are the messages I<BR>>>> >> found:<BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >> .hc <BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >> On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:08 AM, marius schebella wrote:<BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >>> yes, that is true, but pdp_xv is not working. so I cannot<BR> >>> really<BR>>>> >>> say,<BR>>>> >>> if the rest is.<BR>>>> >>> what is the output window called on osx?<BR>>>> >>> marius.<BR>>>> >>> <BR>>>> >>> Kyle Klipowicz wrote:<BR>>>> >>>> My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended-<BR>>>> rc1,<BR>>>> >>>> loads<BR>>>> >>>> every object but pdp_v41. <BR>>>> >>>> ~Kyle<BR>>>> >>>> On 4/19/07, marius schebella <<A href="mailto:marius.schebella@gmail.com">marius.schebella@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>> wrote:<BR>>>> >>>>> hi hans, <BR>>>> >>>>> where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds?<BR>>>> >>>>> btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that.<BR>>>> >>>>> but pdp did not work for me. <BR>>>> >>>>> the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I<BR>>>> >>>>> don't see<BR>>>> >>>>> how to create?<BR>>>> >>>>> marius. <BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> >>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<BR>>>> >>>>>> I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X<BR>>>> in the <BR>>>> >>>>>> upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to<BR>>>> >>>>>> test it.<BR>>>> >>>>>> So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. <BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>> <A href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html</A><BR>>>> >>>>>><BR> >>> >>>>>> PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give<BR>>>> Mac OS X<BR>>>> >>>>>> users a new output option.<BR>>>> >>>>>> <BR>>>> >>>>>> .hc<BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ <BR>>>> >>>>> ------<BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>> ----<BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>> Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a <BR>>>> >>>>>> tactic.<BR>>>> >>>>>> It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night<BR>>>> attacks and<BR>>>> >>>>>> expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win <BR>>>> >>>>>> the war<BR>>>> >>>>>> on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William<BR>>>> Odom<BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>> <BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> >>>>>> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at </A> mailing list<BR>>>> >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><BR>>>> >>>>> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list </A><BR>>>> >>>>>><BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> >>>>> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>>>> >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><BR>>>> >>>>> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list"> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A><BR>>>> >>>>><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>>>> -<BR>>>> >> -------<BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >> Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long<BR>>>> stick. -<BR>>>> >> David <BR>>>> >> Zicarelli<BR>>>> >><BR>>>> >><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > _______________________________________________<BR>>>> > <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>>>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/">http://lists.puredata.info/</A><BR>>>> > listinfo/pd-list <BR>>>> ><BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <BR>>>> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A><BR>>>> <BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> _______________________________________________ <BR>>>> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/">http://lists.puredata.info/</A><BR>>>> listinfo/pd-list <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>> ---<BR>>> ----<BR>>><BR>>> ‘El pueblo unido jamαs serα vencido! <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/">http://lists.puredata.info/</A><BR>>> listinfo/pd-list<BR>>><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>----<BR><BR> ‘El pueblo unido jamαs serα vencido! <BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list"> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear="all"><BR>-- <BR><BR><BR>++++<BR><A href="http://pocketkm.blogspot.com">http://pocketkm.blogspot.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> kill your television</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>