Thank you, Frank.<br><br>However - I installed the latest 0.40 autobuild build this afternoon.<br><br>And got exactly the same error message about the libvos3gcc3.so library not being found, despite the link being present in the appropriate directory.<br><br>any further thoughts?<br><br>again, my thanks,<br>Ruth<br><br><b><i>pd-list-request@iem.at</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Send PD-list mailing list submissions to<br> pd-list@iem.at<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> pd-list-request@iem.at<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> pd-list-owner@iem.at<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. pd-0.38
installation [Was: PD-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 15]<br> (Frank Barknecht)<br> 2. Re: Latest Pd-extended experiences (David Powers)<br> 3. Re: PD i education (Andy Farnell)<br> 4. loading freeframe-objects with Gem/Pd-extended (was Re:<br> Latest Pd-extended experiences) (IOhannes m zmoelnig)<br> 5. Re: gem based multi headed "media player" (moritz)<br> 6. Re: PD i education (Frank Barknecht)<br> 7. Re: puredata Arduino and Ping (Kyle Klipowicz)<br> 8. Re: [OT] PD i education (oliver)<br> 9. binweise delay (Mirko Maier)<br> 10. Re: binweise delay (Frank Barknecht)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:52:10 +0200<br>From: Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org><br>Subject: [PD] pd-0.38 installation [Was: PD-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue<br> 15]<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <20070604135210.GB7478@fliwatut.scifi><br>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii<br><br>Hallo,<br><br>(I changed the subject to something more meaningful.)<br><br>ruth mccracken hat gesagt: // ruth mccracken wrote:<br>> I have installed pd-extended 0.38.4 on ubuntu feisty. When I tried to open it, it asked for several libraries. So I made several symbolic links to libraries it has asked for, and they appear to be working OK.<br><br>first: I wouldn't bother at all with such an ancient version of Pd<br>anymore. We're (almost) at 0.41 in regular Pd now, 0.38 is obsolete,<br>You should try to install at least version 0.39, or even one of the<br>0.40 autobuilds (they work fine on Linux). <br><br>Ciao<br>-- <br> Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:48:11 -0500<br>From: "David Powers" <cyborgk@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [PD] Latest Pd-extended experiences<br>To: pd-list <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID:<br>
<686ba4e40706040648t500935a2n89858b7b1e938968@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Just to be clear and follow up, some of this was caused because I was<br>not only missing randomF, but also tripleRand (replacing with<br>abstractions in my extra directory was easiest solution.) That's<br>cleared up, and as a whole my monster Vj patch does run. (And the font<br>issue isn't a big deal, in fact arial never worked "out of the box"<br>anyway you had to copy the font over somewhere).<br><br>The [pix_freeframe] problem, however, seems to be the only real<br>remaining problem. Note that these worked with my previous pd+Gem<br>combo. The only thing that has changed is my version of PD. But the<br>plugins just won't load now. I'm using the identical patch except for<br>replaced objects. So would I want to replace this Gem with some other<br>one, wait for a new pd-extended, or what? Adding those plugins<br>certainly gives Gem a
nice extra range of pix manipulation abilities,<br>though not essential to my work.<br><br>*Sorry about the bad subject line, gmail doesn't let you change it in<br>a reply, it's annoying, but I use it so I can check email from work<br>and keep track of things when I don't have access to my own<br>computer...<br><br>~David<br><br>> just to make sure: you DO have a PeteSlide.dll in C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/?<br>> and Gem has been able to load this dll in previous incarnations?<br>><br><br>><br>> > trying to load C:/vid/gem-vj/freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur<br>> > C:\\vid\\gem-vj\\freeframe\\PeteGaussianBlur: couldn't load<br>> > error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin<br>> > pix_freeframe freeframe/PeteGaussianBlur<br>> > ... couldn't create<br><br>> mfga.sdr<br>> IOhannes<br>><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 03:17:51 +0100<br>From: Andy Farnell
<padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk><br>Subject: Re: [PD] PD i education<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <20070605031751.387f4e4f.padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:39:40 +0200<br>"Eirik Arthur Blekesaune" <blekesaune@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> Can anybody help me point out who uses PD to teach electronic music? ..<br>> (Algoritmic) Composistion<br>> Synthesis<br>> DSP-theory<br>> real-time performance<br><br>Electronic music and DSP are intersecting, I think Pd is unique<br>in its potential to teach the greatest amount in a single environment.<br>Before Pd you could only cover such a wide range of principles <br>with a pile of different tools.<br> <br>How to break up units into music processing, composition, synthesis,<br>sequencing? Here's my unit outlines...<br><br>http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/workshops/units-list.html<br><br><br> <br>> What are the pros
and cons for using it to teach DSP-theory?<br><br>Pros: DSP has a very wide applications field, with Pd it's <br>easy to demonstrate/model lots of things, not just sound, but possibly<br>radar, process control, machine listening, without expensive DSP <br>development boards. If I had more time and resources I would include<br>some physical/electronics and interfacing stuff, because that is useful<br>for real time performance and instrument designers imo.<br><br>With GUI canvas concept it is possible to build active teaching tools <br>with Pd itself. Active lecture slides that are patches and contain links<br>to other patches makes Pd a very powerful demonstration device for CBT.<br><br>It's free open source software, perfect for teaching, now students only<br>need knowledge and motivation, not expensive licenses to get education. <br><br>Cons, hmm, as Tom said, the fine grain sample/block level could be<br>better somehow. There's a river to cross when moving between
teaching<br>about delays and filters. And for Pd to be a mature as a development tool<br>as well as for teaching it needs to output code that can be compiled<br>into new externals or used in separate applications. I believe these two <br>things are related. It's like Pd is missing a lowest level where you can<br>basically write simplified code into objects and compile them.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>> <br>> Best,<br>> Eirik Blekesaune<br>> <br><br><br>-- <br>Use the source<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:20:27 +0200<br>From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig@iem.at><br>Subject: [PD] loading freeframe-objects with Gem/Pd-extended (was Re:<br> Latest Pd-extended experiences)<br>To: David Powers <cyborgk@gmail.com><br>Cc: pd-list <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID: <46641FAB.4020504@iem.at><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15<br><br>David Powers wrote:<br>> Just to be clear and
follow up, some of this was caused because I was<br>> not only missing randomF, but also tripleRand (replacing with<br>> abstractions in my extra directory was easiest solution.) That's<br>> cleared up, and as a whole my monster Vj patch does run. (And the font<br><br>ya, i noticed that most problems have been solved when reading your<br>other mail after sending my reply....<br><br>> issue isn't a big deal, in fact arial never worked "out of the box"<br>> anyway you had to copy the font over somewhere).<br><br>fonts are searched using the pd-paths (as, to my knowledge, is<br>documented in the help-files...); so you can just add "-path<br>C:/windoze/fonts" (or whatever) to give you direct access to all<br>installed truetype-fonts)<br><br>> <br>> The [pix_freeframe] problem, however, seems to be the only real<br>> remaining problem. Note that these worked with my previous pd+Gem<br>> combo. The only thing that has changed is my version of PD. But
the<br>> plugins just won't load now. I'm using the identical patch except for<br>> replaced objects. So would I want to replace this Gem with some other<br>> one, wait for a new pd-extended, or what? Adding those plugins<br>> certainly gives Gem a nice extra range of pix manipulation abilities,<br>> though not essential to my work.<br><br><br>yes, that's the point of having a freeframe-loader available....<br><br>anyhow, could you try replacing the current Gem.dll with an older one<br>(where you know that it worked) and report back?<br>make sure you do have backups though...<br><br><br>mfg.asdr<br>IOhannes<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:12:27 +0200<br>From: moritz <erstens@gmx.ch><br>Subject: Re: [PD] gem based multi headed "media player"<br>To: Tim Boykett <tim@timesup.org><br>Cc: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <46642BDB.8020705@gmx.ch><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
format=flowed<br><br>Tim Boykett wrote:<br>> <br>> hi,<br>> <br>> has anyone had any experience using (multiple) gem(s)<br>> to output several videos simultaneously on a multiheaded<br>> (linux) box?<br>> <br>> the questions that arise as we ponder this is how much CPU gets<br>> used to decode the video, how much to render, how much the<br>> graphics cards can take away effort from the CPU, what sort of<br>> idea of harddisks can make the data transfer more efficent, etc.<br>> <br>> any experiences? any suggestions?<br>> <br>> cheers,<br>> <br>> tim<br><br>hello<br><br>with a P4 2.ghz and very important, a graphic card with its own memory <br>(with restricted drivers, opengl support, here nv?d?a ) under ubuntu can <br>i buffer (with pix_buffer) more than 8 videos all at 16 seconds length <br>but this are not videos from a harddisk, but directly from one webcam <br>--> cpu uses less than 10%...so the graphiccard does
here his job very well.<br>but at this point pd has nothing to handle with the harddisk.<br><br>i dont have experiences reading non-live videos (from harddisk) and Gem.<br><br>When i want to render the gemwindow to harddisk with pix_record and <br>pix_snap i have a cpu-load of 100%, tested with all available codecs.. <br>sometimes pd crashes, sometimes i got corrupt movie-files, few times i <br>got playable movies. i got not a stable solution now for rendering.<br><br>cio<br><br>moritz<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:42:45 +0200<br>From: Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org><br>Subject: Re: [PD] PD i education<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <20070604154245.GC12992@fliwatut.scifi><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>Hallo,<br>Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:<br><br>> How to break up units into music processing, composition, synthesis,<br>> sequencing? Here's my
unit outlines...<br>> <br>> http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/workshops/units-list.html<br><br>One thing that I always forget to ask students to bring besides<br>laptop, USB-sticks etc. but that is out absolutely crucial and is<br>still often missing: They have to bring a *mouse*. Patching Pd with<br>the touchpad is a major pain.<br><br>Ciao<br>-- <br> Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:08:24 -0500<br>From: "Kyle Klipowicz" <kyleklip@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [PD] puredata Arduino and Ping<br>To: "marius schebella" <marius.schebella@gmail.com><br>Cc: PD-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID:<br> <f279b1600706040908v494791b7lefb2be5b4238d62a@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Yes, please describe the physical configuration of the 5 sensors<br>Marko. I am working on a similar project using 6 sensors, but we
have<br>not done much testing in our proper configuration yet.<br><br>My guess is that since all the sensors are hard wired with a specific<br>ping frequency, they will detect each other's pings when placed in<br>close proximity.<br><br>~Kyle<br><br>On 6/3/07, marius schebella <marius.schebella@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> your code and patch look good. It is not clear to me, why you are using<br>> these delaytimes for the different sensors. but that should not affect<br>> your results anyway. the minimum delaytime between two measurements is<br>> only 200microseconds. but maybe it also depends on the length of the<br>> impulse? would it be possible, that the sensing fields of the 5 sensors<br>> overlap, and you get the crosstalk from that?<br>> on the other hand, it may also be possible that the problem is in your<br>> circuit. you could try to use 10k pulldown resistors. maybe that stops<br>> the crosstalk.<br>><br>>
marius.<br>><br>><br>> Marko Timlin wrote:<br>> > I am working with several ultra sound sensors called Ping from Parallax<br>> > wired to an Arduino board that is connected to puredata.<br>> > currently I am working with 3 sensors and it works fine.<br>> ><br>> > now I want to work with 5 sensors and the following problem occurs:<br>> > - I get "phantom" values on sensors that are not modified: if, for example, I change the value of sensor B, sensor C also changes its values, not exactely syncronized but it jumps to a simlar value range. very annoying indeed.<br>> > is that a problem of my script for arduino or a problem of pd?<br>> > does anybody already have experience with such a configuration?<br>> > I am using Pd version 0.39.2-extended-RC1 on windows xp.<br>> ><br>> > attached you find the arduino and pd patch for that idea.<br>> ><br>> > thanks,<br>> > marko<br>>
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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed<br><br>hi, andy<br><br>really interesting site:<br><br>http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/compositions/compositions.html<br><br>only bad thing is that most of your music-example patches for download require <br>abstractions that are not included. that's sad, because i really liked the pokesdown-patch <br>(the only one that works)<br><br>btw: padawan vst-instruments are also great !<br><br>ciao<br><br>oliver<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:07:20 +0200<br>From: "Mirko Maier" <mirkom@gmx.de><br>Subject: [PD] binweise delay<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <20070604170720.162580@gmx.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>hi list,<br>is there a possibility for binwise spectral delay with fft? i tried to write the analysis in buffers and read it time-variably out before re-synthesizing, but that didn't work (in fact buffer writing / reading the analysis did
not work at all).<br><br>mirko<br><br>-- <br>Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh?rt?<br>Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 10<br>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:57:58 +0200<br>From: Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org><br>Subject: Re: [PD] binweise delay<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <20070604175758.GE12992@fliwatut.scifi><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>Hallo,<br>Mirko Maier hat gesagt: // Mirko Maier wrote:<br><br>> is there a possibility for binwise spectral delay with fft? i tried<br>> to write the analysis in buffers and read it time-variably out<br>> before re-synthesizing, but that didn't work (in fact buffer writing<br>> / reading the analysis did not work at all).<br><br>Is this: http://footils.org/cms/show/60 what you mean?<br><br>Ciao<br>-- <br> Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_
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