<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I found the Max/MSP style Cmd-Click to toggle edit mode quite annoying in Pd. So I switched it to the Pd-style Ctrl-Click. Cmd-Click now allows you to interact with GUI objects when in edit mode. I think this makes the most sense. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Any objections?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:24 PM, hard off wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">command E / ctrl E, which i have always used, is weird now on osX . <BR><BR>for a start, you have to actually move the mouse to see the cursor change from an arrow to a hand. <BR><BR>also, if you use command E with the mouse clicked (when selecting objects for edit), then command E is double triggering. <BR><BR>i could possibly get used to the new command click method, but just want to let you know that this change has broken the existing command E function. <BR><BR>my vote is a NO for command click unless the original command E function works properly again. <BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; "></DIV><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; "></DIV><DIV>There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>