<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:30 AM, alan brooker wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P class="MsoNormal">Hi<BR> <BR> I have a G4 as well and I have had the same problems...what I have found out is that rc4-extended for ppc uses a new version of Gem, unfortunately this new version has not be released for G4s (g5 only). </P><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal">I have a work around where you swap an older version of Gem (used in extended pd 38) and replace it with the new version. This is easy to do and it means you can use Gem in rc4-extended, you don't even need to go into the terminal. If you want instructions let me know and I post them.<BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I was running Pd-extended on a G4 without problems until about a month or so ago, when my powerbook died. The Gem in Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4 is built from source on a G4, so it should work there. Nothing changed in the build process (that I know of) in the last few months, so I would be surprised if somehow it switched.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P class="MsoNormal"> </P><P class="MsoNormal">Can you not load any library at all? Do a test, open a new patch and type in [moog~] or [freeverb~]. If any of these objects have not loaded correctly it means you could have a plist conflict. I have had this problem as well and it is easy to sort out, again you don't need to go into the terminal. Please let me know if you require instructions</P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>With the most recent releases, it's best to not have a prefrences file at all, since the prefs are embedded in the app now. Try trashing ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P class="MsoNormal">However PDP remains a mystery to me and if anyone has actually use PDP on osx at any point ever, please let me know.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It works everywhere I've tested it. You need to have X11 installed, which is on the Mac OS X DVD.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal">Kind Thanks</P><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal">Al</P><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="gmailquote">On 7/23/07, <B>Daniel Zajicek</B> <<A href="mailto:danzajicek@gmail.com">danzajicek@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal">I have downloaded PD, and have been trying to get GEM to work for most<BR> of today. I have downloaded<BR> Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4-macosx104-powerpc.dmg from Han's site<BR> (<A href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html</A>), but I continually get<BR> errors saying:<BR> <BR> <BR> iemabs: can't load library<BR> iemmatrix: can't load library<BR> liblist: can't load library<BR> <BR> pdp_text : severe error : could not load default font : no rendering !!!<BR> pdp_qtext : severe error : could not load default font : no rendering !!!<BR> <BR> In addition, I was unable to create objects, and instead pd would<BR> create a box with a dashed line around it (is this a comment box?).<BR> <BR> So, thwarted by that, I downloaded Miller's most current version of pd<BR> 40-2, and thought I might just put GEM on there myself, but I can't<BR> figure out how to do it. This is my first time working with a program<BR> like pd, and I could used some assistance either installing GEM, or<BR> getting pd-extended to work.<BR> <BR> If it helps, I am running OS 10.3.9, on an G4 powerbook.<BR> <BR> Thanks in advance,<BR> Dan Zajicek<BR> <BR> _______________________________________________<BR> <A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list<BR> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A></P><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Terrorism is not an enemy. 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