<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><SPAN></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 24, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Diego Azar wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>Absolute value. So if the last value was -3 and the mouse stop moving, it stays there. What I meant was that if the number was greater than absolute value of 1, and the mouse stops, it stays there. I put abs(1) because the sign is logical. If I move from right to left it stays in a negative number, what seems correct. If it is in the oposite direccion it stays in a positive number, so the sign thing seems to work fine. What number is it supposed to give if there´s no movement? one?</DIV> <DIV>When moving fast it always have this problem</DIV> <DIV>Could it be some delay between the on of the mouse´s led and the "data transfer" from the os to pd?</DIV> <DIV>I tried it with two mouses ,one with a led-cam-dsp system and the other with a ball-system, and they had the same behavior. </DIV> <DIV>Sorry if I wasn´t clear enough.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Diego.<BR><BR><B><I>Hans-Christoph Steiner <<A href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>I read your question again, and I don't quite get it. What's abs(1)?</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>.hc</DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:37 AM, Diego Azar wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hans, thanks for your reply. I'm working with hidio because it works better, with my configuration, than the hid. <BR><BR>thanks again, Diego.<BR><BR><B><I>Hans-Christoph Steiner <<A href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</A>></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>First off, I must say [hidio] can be quite rough since it's very alpha. But I am glad to have people testing it, with that in mind. But if you are using [hidio] and not [hid], and you are getting "rel_x" as a message, then that is a bug. "rel_x" is the old [hid] style messages. [hidio]'s messages look like [relative x 0 1(</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>.hc</DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Jul 22, 2007, at 9:49 PM, Diego Azar wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi. I'm using the hidio object with a mouse and it seems there's something I'm not getting. The problem is when routing the list from the rel_x to obtain the x relative axes; the value, sometimes, is greater than abs(1) when the mouse is not moving. Is this behavior correct? Is this a bug? Has it anythig to do with the numbers hidio gets from the /dev/event$ or something within the OS? <BR>I'm using a Debian based distro.<BR><BR>Thanks, Diego. <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <HR size="1"> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! <BR><A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now</A> (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! 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