shouldn't have singled anyone out like that...my apologies it's just this whole nonesense is getting to me after the x number of days it has lasted and gone nowhere.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/10/10, eric labelle <
<a href="mailto:eric.a.labelle@gmail.com">eric.a.labelle@gmail.com</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide? Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in new france man?
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bigswift@cox.net</a>><br><br></span>this whole facking thread is boring...the american bashing is the only thing keeping me on a list that would tolerate such flagrant abuse of people's time and bandwidth. Wow to hear them go at it they seem to take themselves seriously which is great...hack a bit of software and hold the key!! Hackers unite right?
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wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.<br><br>BORING.<br><br>last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>---- marius schebella <<a href="mailto:marius.schebella@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
marius.schebella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Mathieu Bouchard wrote:<br>><br>> >> Americans today make ironic references to the "Axis of Evil" and the<br>> >> "war on terror" and "homeland security" all the time. It doesn't mean
<br>> >> they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.<br>> ><br>> > Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?<br>><br>> why? I think because USamericans are fearful people. they are fearful,
<br>> because they never learned to talk about their problematic history.<br>> genocide and slavery. they just inherit the guilty consciousness<br>> unprocessed from generation to generation. therefor they only feel safe,
<br>> when they are protected by a big brother. they live with the idea of the<br>> survival of the fittest (make the rich richer). they never gave black<br>> people compensation for their exploitation (nor any other group). as a
<br>> matter of fact this is not only US history, but western history in<br>> general, but european countries experienced worldwar II and I think they<br>> changed their way on communal thinking about racism and so on. there was
<br>> some shift in common notion and also the wish to keep this notion alive.<br>> USamericans subconsciously still fear revenge. and even worse, some of<br>> them even think it is a good idea to have a small, rich, educated
<br>> leading elite that controls the big majority of people. they propose a<br>> free market, which I see rather as a free slave market, because<br>> preconditions are not fair at all for all people. they try to oppress
<br>> every effort of union building and their voting system is a "the winner<br>> takes it all". in europe it took green parties more than 20 years to<br>> make it into gouvernments. in the US this is not possible, because with
<br>> anything less than 50% you are nothing.<br>> and of course the US has a media that is owned by a handful of people,<br>> and an education system including universities that aligns itself more<br>> to the needs of companies and corporations than to the values of life.
<br>> that's why "they" still vote for one of the two big parties.<br>> with the fall of the dollar, the raise of china, some bank crashs, more<br>> and more unemployed people, no health care, no social security I think
<br>> people will start to vote differently within the the next 10-20 years.<br>> marius.<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <a href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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