<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 4, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><DIV style="word-wrap:break-word"><DIV><SPAN><DIV>DesireData has much more substantial and interesting changes than the colors and backgrounds. it is also, unfortunately, not at a fully usable state yet. Since there were 50,000+ downloads of the previous version of Pd-extended ( 0.38.4), I think it's worthwhile to spend a couple days to make Pd-extended work better while we are waiting for DesireData.</DIV></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR> </DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR> </DIV><DIV>Sorry, I hope my tone was not discouraging; I most certainly support this.</DIV><DIV><BR> </DIV><DIV>It would be cool if you could document your changes, since I'd be interested in helping out. </DIV><DIV><A href="http://puredata.info/dev/GuiIdeas/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://puredata.info/dev/GuiIdeas/</A></DIV><DIV>(I added some of the things from this thread just now) </DIV><DIV><BR> </DIV><DIV>By the way, Monaco on Leopard is rendering anti-aliased at 10pt again, so Pd-e looks great there out of the box. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Here's the patch with the changes that I made, there is a section in u_main.tk (aka pd.tk) that lists the colors that you can configure:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/packages/patches/color_scheme_support-0.40.3.patch">http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/packages/patches/color_scheme_support-0.40.3.patch</A></DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If anyone is interested in working on the Pd GUI, a good place to start is the various panels. I played a bit with this GUI builder thing, it's quite handy. It's a bit buggy, but useful, and available on GNU/Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X. </DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=24918&package_id=219784">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=24918&package_id=219784</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The app is a little weird to run on Mac. First download this file, Then if you add ".command" to the end of it, you can run it by doubleclicking. You also have to set it as executable.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://downloads.sourceforge.net/spectcl/guibuilder-macosx-universal-20070129">http://downloads.sourceforge.net/spectcl/guibuilder-macosx-universal-20070129</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Basically, if you are interest in improving the GUI, you could use it to remake some of the panels. The IEMGUI panels are quite hard to modify, but the Pd ones are easy, so try some of these:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">find panel</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">send panel</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">text editor</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">array panel</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">canvas/GOP panel</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Pd window<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">all four preferences panes</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Avoid BWidget and Iwidgets since those aren't currently included in Pd's Tcl/Tk.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; ">.hc<BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>