<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Tcl is whacky, but Tk is quite flexible and well developed for making GUIs. Check out tomorrow's auto-build if you want to make your mouse cursor turn into gumby :) It's in hcs/cursor-help.pd</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I have now discovered the wonder that is Tcl/Tk.<BR>There goes the next few weeks of my life...<BR><BR>-Chuckk<BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 11/3/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Chuckk Hubbard</B> <<A href="mailto:badmuthahubbard@gmail.com"> badmuthahubbard@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello.<BR>I am brainstorming about rewriting a Pd patch I wrote as a standalone program, for several reasons. I wrote it very haphazardly the first time, learning to program simultaneously. I've since gained a much greater understanding of C, and a smattering of some other languages. Also, the other musicians I try to share my program with seem unable to figure out how to configure Pd (I still find it difficult, honestly). I'd also like to use my program to apply for grants, so I think it would be well to be standalone. <BR>I understand that Pd uses Tcl/Tk, but I don't know much about these tools. What kind of libraries or toolkits enable the functions of things like [drawpolygon] and [drawnumber]? I didn't see anything resembling that in the info I read on Tcl/Tk, but I did see the possibility of using image files, which I think would be just as good. I've also picked up some knowledge of OpenGL from Gem; might that be an option for a sequencer GUI? <BR><BR>Advice appreciated.<BR>-<SPAN id="st" name="st" class="st">Chuckk</SPAN><BR clear="all"><SPAN class="sg"><BR>-- <BR><A href="http://www.badmuthahubbard.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://www.badmuthahubbard.com</A> </SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear="all"><BR>-- <BR><A href="http://www.badmuthahubbard.com">http://www.badmuthahubbard.com</A><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</A> mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>