<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 15/11/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mathieu Bouchard</b> <<a href="mailto:matju@artengine.ca">matju@artengine.ca</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Charles Henry wrote:<br><br>> Zen master Dogen tells us that we say time is passing because we live in<br>> time. In fact, we are passing in time, and time stays exactly where it<br>> is.<br>
<br>time seen as the 4th space dimension is also a result of<br>Einstein-Minkowski theory. It wasn't the only step in that direction, not<br>the first step, but it was a major shift. There's a version of Pythagoras'
<br>theorem for that space-time, in which the only difference between space<br>and time is that they have a different sign. Thus time is a kind of space<br>with a scale factor equal to square root of -1. (You may also get to this
<br>scale factor by fiddling with the wave equation.)<br><br>Whether time "moves" or "stays exactly where it is" is a metaphysical<br>question: you can't make an experiment that distinguishes the two
<br>possibilities. Thus it's just a matter of how we explain things to<br>ourselves.<br><br>> Maybe we can find 2-D time through transcendance. hmmm an external for that?<br><br>I think that there is hope in reversing the roles of time and space in
<br>equations, such that you have 1-D space and 3-D time. I don't think that<br>we'd be able to get to exactly 2-D time. Thus I believe that there is more<br>hope in [line~~~] than in [line~~].<br><br> _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ...
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<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br><br></blockquote></div>As far as I am concerned, time is just one of the two main dimensions in music, the one that allows the other one(pitch/frequency) to exist, or at least to be realisable by my ears and brain.
<br><br>If i may now borrow the theory and terminus <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"></span>Arrow of time</span> by Arthur Eddington, according to which time is the fourth dimension in space, it has a direction and moves only to this direction, making everything in the past clear and stable, but
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">leaving the future uncertain</span>.<br>(One could wonder: Exactly how straight is this axis? Could it bend and go back? Of course! In music this is called a "reprise".)
<br><br>So, is there ever going to be a [line~~]? Only "time" can tell.<br><br>-- <br>Ypatios.<br><br>p.s.: Oh, glorious Wikipedia, you saved me once more! (I really should donate...)