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<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I am curious why the vertex_array objects are disabled by default? Shaders are not exactly easy to learn, so it would be nice to have your vertex_array objects as a more accessible, visual alternative.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Mind if I enable them in Pd-extended? Are they in a useful state?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Dec 22, 2007, at 9:26 AM, chris clepper wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">This is what the vertex_array objects basically do. The vertex_model object opens up a .obj and then passes the vertex, normal, texcoord and color data to other vertex_ objects for processing. The speed is pretty good - better than standard geos - but the better route is to use shaders. Shaders allow for more end user manipulation than the vertex_objects could ever offer. <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 22, 2007 8:43 AM, Chris McCormick <<a href="mailto:chris@mccormick.cx">chris@mccormick.cx</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 01:25:21PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:<br>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:<br>><br>> >It would be way cool if gem was truly dataflow, with the [cube] or<br>> >another geometry source at the top of the stack and then <br>> >geometry/colour/texture modifiers all the way down until a [render]<br>> >object. Imagine doing audio style filtering on geometry streams.<br>> >One can dream I guess.<br>><br>> Also imagine doing audio processing with the kind of flow that there is in <br>> gemchains. Urgh!<br><br>Forgot the attachment.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Chris.<br><br>-------------------<br><a href="http://mccormick.cx" target="_blank">http://mccormick.cx</a><br><br>_______________________________________________ <br><a href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list </a><br><br></blockquote></div><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</a> mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a></div> </blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- Martin Luther King, Jr.</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span> </div><br></body></html>