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random question,<br>
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just a thought, but do any of you think it would be possible to<br>
build a sysex editor for something like a fs1r with pd ?<br>
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i have some software that i can edit it with, but i cant edit<br>
it and play sequences with it at the same time.. its like the<br>
editor has complete control over the midi port and wont<br>
let it up to any other midi sequencer/program, i've tried using<br>
a midi yoke, but that doesn't work either... sorry for the kind<br>
of indirect pd question, i just wondered if i went about investing<br>
some time into building something with pd i could still use<br>
external software to record and playback sequences..<br>
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all the best<br>
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1. Re: How to cite PD in an academic paper? (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
2. Re: visca camera control in pd? (B. Bogart)
3. Re: Mac OS X Intel autobuilds (brandon zeeb)
4. paranoid pd (naysayer)
5. Re: paranoid pd (Derek Holzer)
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I generally use what I think the reader would be most interested in.
If there is something in the icmc96.ps paper that is related, I would
include that, otherwise, I use a misc entry with the
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://puredata.info">http://puredata.info</a> URL.
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
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Use the @MISC bibtex entry
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author: Puckette et al
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date: 1996
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or you may prefer to cite this as a pointer
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps">http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps</a>
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See for constructing MISC bibtex fields
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<blockquote type="cite">Hey all,
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Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R
<br>
outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard for
PD?
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OT: How is software generally cited?
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Thanks,
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<pre wrap="">The elmo just says "Ack, ERR or Complete" but since multiple cameras can
be diasychained then it gets more complex, which camera threw which error.
Another thing to look into is the pan/tilt heads, I was looking at these
as they are much more flexible, you can put any camera on em, but I did
not look very far. (zoom is obviously trouble)
have fun!
.b.
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On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:martin.peach@sympatico.ca">martin.peach@sympatico.ca</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf"><http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf></a>I've
worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232
serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming
messages.
Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be
handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the
cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not.
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Awesome, thanks for the info. I'll take a look at it this weekend.
Should I forward any subsequent issues on this topic (ie: Pd on 10.5
and universal binaries) to the pd-dev list, or this one?
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I'll let you all know when I have the builds going.
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Cheers,
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~Brandon
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Cool. It's not too hard to setup, here's how. First use rsync to get
the code:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource">http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource</a>
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Then install all the dependencies:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin">http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin</a>
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Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically:
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pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
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Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too
hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project.
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.hc
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<blockquote type="cite">I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of
RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1,
and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel
binaries.
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If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate
dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel
autobuilds.
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Let me know,
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I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet.
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If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal
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builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK.
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On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps
we can set aside an intel box
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for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably
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around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically.
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I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not
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positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a
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one will mess with...
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<blockquote type="cite">jan 17 has one.
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the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild
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process
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was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and
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good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines
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got
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totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with
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jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans?
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marius.
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Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86
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since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel
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<pre wrap="">could someone tell me how i can turn off this paranoid setting in pd
that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window.
it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have
saved the patch or not.
i hope i'm not being intolerant.
thanks.
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CTL + W is very close to CTL + E, so I for one am glad it's there.
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<blockquote type="cite">could someone tell me how i can turn off this
paranoid setting in pd
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that asks me every time if i'm sure i want to close the patch window.
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it seems a little crazy that this happens regardless of whether i have
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