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<div><br></div><div>I use 6 analog inputs all of the time on Mac and Linux. I've never used 19200 tho. Try using [comport] alone to eliminate anything in [arduino]. Maybe there is a bug in comport on vista?</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><html>On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:17 PM, nick burge wrote:</html><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008">Thank you Hans, am I being unrealistic in trying to have six analog inputs active all at once? I know you said that was a lot of data, but I run a fairly powerful laptop with a dual core Centrino processor, and Windows task manager reports only a modest demand on the cpu of around 30% when I have the patch running and all inputs active, so it seems to be an error in timing or syncronisation rather than simply overstressing the system that causes this....I'</span></font><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008">ve taken the patch right down to the basic arduino-test patch, but still the crashes occur when I activate more than 2 analog inputs. I'll experiment with different baud rates, go back to a usb connection rather than the xbee wireless system and keep trying to identify the source of the problem. I'll get back to you if I learn anything new. Below is the data produced by the event viewer in Windows in case it means anything to you.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008"> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">pd.exe</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">0.0.0.0</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">47148d16</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">pd.dll</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">0.0.0.0</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">47148d15</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">c0000005</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">00004e04</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">17ec</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td nowrap="" width="15"></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'" nowrap="" width="130"><b></b></td> <td style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'">01c89bd26543018e</td></tr></tbody></table></span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008"></span></font><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="704364418-11042008">Nick.</span></font></div><br> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Hans-Christoph Steiner [<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">mailto:hans@eds.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2008 18:30<br><b>To:</b> nick burge<br><b>Cc:</b> Pd List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div>Let's keep this on the list since it could be generally useful.</div> <div><br></div> <div>In order to get to the next step, you should try to isolate the problem, to see where the crash is actually happening. Otherwise, there are far too many possibilities for me to try guessing. Ideally, you could make a simple patch that reproduces the crash.</div> <div><br></div> <div>.hc</div><br> <div>On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:01 AM, nick burge wrote:<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="530035906-11042008">Firmata, Pduino and xbees. are all set to communicate at 19200 baud.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="530035906-11042008">Nick </span></font><br></div> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Hans-Christoph Steiner [<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">mailto:hans@eds.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2008 23:57<br><b>To:</b> nick burge<br><b>Cc:</b> Pd List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs<br></font><br></div> <div></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WHITE-SPACE: normal"><br></span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WHITE-SPACE: normal">What baud are you running each at? IIRC, the XBee needs a strange value.</span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WHITE-SPACE: normal"><br></span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WHITE-SPACE: normal">.hc</span></div></span> <div> <div>On Apr 10, 2008, at 5:52 PM, nick burge wrote:<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="401264221-10042008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I wish I knew. I'm loading the arduino-test patch with no other objects or abstractions so as to eliminate other suspects. Still PD crashes when I enable more than 2 analogIns.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="401264221-10042008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Would it help to speed up or slow down the xbee connection?</font></span></div><br> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Hans-Christoph Steiner [<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">mailto:hans@eds.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2008 23:12<br><b>To:</b> nick burge<br><b>Cc:</b> Pd List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div>The code and the electrics are quite separate. If the electrics work with one firmware, then they'll work with another. The question is, what is the "it" that grinds to a halt.</div> <div><br></div> <div>.hc</div><br> <div>On Apr 10, 2008, at 4:17 PM, nick burge wrote:<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="191550720-10042008">Yes, I've got the latest version....maybe a silly question...but could it be that Pduino is optimised for sensors working on a supply of 5v. because the phidget voltage dividers i've got my FSRs attached to come with a potentiometer that alters the resistance of the circuit...with pduino i can only activate 2 at a time before it all grinds to a halt...on arduino2PD i can activate all six without any problem. Strange. </span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="191550720-10042008"></span></font><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="191550720-10042008">Nick.</span></font></div><br> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Hans-Christoph Steiner [<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">mailto:hans@eds.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2008 21:51<br><b>To:</b> nick burge<br><b>Cc:</b> Pd List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div>I've never run on Vista before, so I can't say much about that. I have run on Debian, Ubuntu, and Mac OS X. It shouldn't matter what is generating the data on the arduino, the messages coming to Pd via the serial port should be all the same. </div> <div><br></div> <div>Are you using the latest version:</div> <div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3"><a href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Pduino-0.3.1.zip">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Pduino-0.3.1.zip</a></font></div></div></div> <div><br></div> <div>.hc</div><br> <div>On Apr 10, 2008, at 12:57 PM, nick burge wrote:<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="007394516-10042008">Hello Hans-Christoph, I am using PD 0.39.3 extended. on a windows vista system. Its PD that crashes, or "stops working" as Vista so nicely puts it, when I connect the FSRs.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="007394516-10042008">I have arduino connecting via wireless xbees at 19200 baud.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="007394516-10042008">I also use an infra red distance sensor that gives no problem.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="007394516-10042008">I've been routing the data from the FSRs through the autoscale object.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font size="+0"><span class="007394516-10042008"></span></font><span class="007394516-10042008"></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">M<span class="007394516-10042008">aybe I should find a way to reduce the amount of data being sampled...every 40ms for example? How would I do that?</span></font></font></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font size="+0"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="007394516-10042008"></span></font></font></font><span class="007394516-10042008"></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">N<span class="007394516-10042008">ick.</span></font></font></font><br></div> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Hans-Christoph Steiner [<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">mailto:hans@eds.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2008 17:25<br><b>To:</b> nick burge<br><b>Cc:</b> Pd List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div><br></div> <div>Which program crashes? Which version are you using? You will get a lot of data, from 6 sensors, Pduino/Firmata will read them all every 20ms. I have never seen a crash using [arduino], except when I unplug the arduino when Pd is connected to it, so I suspect the problem lies elsewhere. </div> <div><br></div> <div>.hc</div><br> <div>On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:16 AM, nick burge wrote:<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="023550209-10042008">I have a little problem using Pduino and some force sensing resistors that I am using in conjunction with phidget voltage dividers....they seem to crash the program as soon as I activate more than 1 at a time..... </span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="023550209-10042008">Should I be applying some sort of filter to the data stream?</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="023550209-10042008">Arduino2PD seems more robust, allowing me to activate all 6 analog inputs at once.</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="023550209-10042008"></span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="023550209-10042008">Nick Burge.</span></font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px">_______________________________________________</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><a href="mailto:PD-list@iem.at">PD-list@iem.at</a> mailing list</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a></div></blockquote></div><br> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <div><br></div> <div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div><br></div> <div>Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... 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