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<div><br></div><div>Which part loads super slow? There could be other things at play there. How fast is your machine? Which platform?</div><div><br></div><div>It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release)<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/6/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Luke Iannini</b> <<a href="mailto:lukexipd@gmail.com">lukexipd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Joćo Pais <<a href="mailto:jmmmpais@googlemail.com">jmmmpais@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using<br>> cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal?<br>> after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the<br>> colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that)<br> > I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind<br>> of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and<br>> on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu)<br> ><br>Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my<br>performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a<br>sequencer) and it took...<br><br>/fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds.<br><br> Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can<br>run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to<br>open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro)<br><br>I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the<br> many externals I use.<br><br>Cheers<br>Luke<br><br>> XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably<br>> has nothing to do with it]<br>><br>><br>>> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and<br> >> user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look<br>>> that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots<br>>> of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app.<br> >> There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is<br>>> getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing<br>>> now but will come later)<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html</a><br> >><br>>> Here is a partial changelog:<br>>><br>>> - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower<br>>> on machines < 1 GHz)<br>>><br>>> - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc.<br> >> GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd<br>>> Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd<br>>> Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/<br>>> Application Data/Pd<br>>><br>>> - lots of standard key bindings added:<br> >> Enter/Return for OK<br>>> Escape for Cancel<br>>> Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows<br>>> on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows<br>>> on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows<br> >> Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window<br>>> Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window<br>>> Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console<br>>> Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser<br> >><br>>> - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on<br>>> Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths<br>>><br>>> - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms<br> >><br>>> - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs<br>>> to be done before there namespace support is complete<br>>><br>>> - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/)<br> >><br>>> - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console<br>>><br>>> - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X<br>>><br>>> KNOWN BUGS<br>>><br>>> - check <a href="http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker">http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker</a> before reporting bugs<br> >><br>>> - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup<br>>> preferences<br>>><br>>> - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd<br>>><br>>> - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying<br> >> to load it<br>>><br>>><br>>> .hc<br>>><br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> ----<br>>><br>>> I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and<br> >> during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man<br>>> for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General<br>>> Smedley Butler<br>>><br>>><br>>><br> >> _______________________________________________<br>>> Pd-announce mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Pd-announce@iem.at">Pd-announce@iem.at</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce</a><br> >><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>>> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br> ><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Friedenstr. 58<br>> 10249 Berlin<br>> Deutschland<br>> Tel +49 30 42020091<br>> Mob +49 162 6843570<br>> <a href="mailto:jmmmpais@googlemail.com">jmmmpais@googlemail.com</a><br> > skype: jmmmpjmmmp<br>> <a href="http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp">http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp</a><br>> IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG<br>> Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br> > <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br> ><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br> </blockquote></div><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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