<div>So it's not just XP then. It makes it hard to even build a patch, because I'm afraid of using GOP. </div>
<div>Start-up of the program itself is no issue. The slow-down occurs whenever I open my main working patch. It took about 30-45 sec before (last released pd-extended package). Now it takes 5 1/2 minutes ( I timed it just now). Everytime I edit a section of it, things take a long time to regen as well. I have some GOPs nested in other GOPs, so I was wondering if it had to do with that. I can't think of anything in particular that might cause it, but his is what I'm experiencing. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Luke Iannini <<a href="mailto:lukexipd@gmail.com">lukexipd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hurrah, great work Hans... Pd is starting to feel quite native on the Mac.<br><br>The app-generator is fantastic. I've got quite a few patches designed<br>
for just such a thing.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>> - the GUI runs slower on some older Macs<br></div>It's definitely not just older Macs! I've got a two month old Mac Pro<br>2.8x8 that takes 15 minutes to load one of my more complex patches (as<br>
I mentioned in another thread). I never timed it before this<br>development, but it was probably in the 1-2 minute range (which I<br>thought was long at the time :)).<br><br>I'll start going through the autobuilds to see if I can narrow down<br>
when the loading issue began.<br><br>Other than that, I'm very happy. Thanks for all your hard work as always.<br><br>Cheers<br><font color="#888888">Luke<br></font>
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<div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br>On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@eds.org">hans@eds.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and<br>
> user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look<br>> that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots<br>> of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app.<br>
> There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is<br>> getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing<br>> now but will come later)<br>><br>> <a href="http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html" target="_blank">http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html</a><br>
><br>> Here is a partial changelog:<br>><br>> - next visual appearance designed for readability<br>><br>> - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc.<br>> GNU/Linux: /usr/local/lib/pd-externals and ~/pd-externals<br>
> Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd<br>> Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/<br>> Application Data/Pd<br>><br>> - lots of standard key bindings added:<br>> Enter/Return for OK<br>
> Escape for Cancel<br>> Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows<br>> on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows<br>> on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows<br>> Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window<br>
> Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window<br>> Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console<br>> Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser<br>><br>> - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on<br>
> Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths<br>><br>> - Cut/Copy/Paste now work directly into object and message boxes on<br>> all platforms<br>><br>> - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console<br>
><br>> - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading (but much work<br>> needs to be done before there namespace support is complete)<br>><br>> - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/) on Mac OSX<br>
><br>> - new patches default to the folder last saved in<br>><br>> - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X<br>><br>> - 'hardware' and 'deprecated' removed from libraries loaded by default<br>
><br>> - On Debian/Ubuntu, the packages now install into /usr rather than /<br>> usr/local<br>><br>> - On Mac OS X, you can now build "standalone" applications from the<br>> File menu.<br>><br>
> KNOWN BUGS<br>><br>> - check <a href="http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker" target="_blank">http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker</a> before reporting bugs<br>><br>> - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup<br>
> preferences<br>><br>> - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd<br>><br>> - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying<br>> to load it<br>><br>> - the GUI runs slower on some older Macs<br>
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