<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Jack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jack@rybn.org">jack@rybn.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
With Flash you copy using : command-c<br>
you paste in the center of your doc using : command-v<br>
you paste in place using : command-shift-v<br>
I like the command-d under Pd to duplicate because it is easy to<br>
align using shift-arrow keys.<br>
++</blockquote><div><br>It sounds like these are pretty standard across Adobe's products, as these sound like all the keyboard command used in all their other graphics products...<br><br>Mike<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Le 1 sept. 08 à 13:17, Miller Puckette a écrit :<br>
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> Another possibility would be to use command-shift-paste to paste<br>
> and immediately<br>
> go into the "stick" state. I think I might have to try a few<br>
> different<br>
> ways to see which is most natural.<br>
><br>
> M<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 01:09:49PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:<br>
>> Hallo,<br>
>> Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Right, control-D should probably stay as it is, but separately<br>
>>> copying and<br>
>>> pasting migt want to do something "smarter".<br>
>><br>
>> What about this idea/specification for a possible smart placement:<br>
>><br>
>> 1) user presses Ctl-C and copies objects from coordinates (xc,yc)<br>
>><br>
>> 2) user presses Ctl-V, mouse is at (xm, ym)<br>
>><br>
>> 3) Objects get pasted at position: (xc, yc) - the original<br>
>> coordinates -<br>
>> but they don't get "anchored" yet.<br>
>><br>
>> Now comes the new part:<br>
>><br>
>> 4.1 a) If user moves the mouse now, the objects move to the mouse<br>
>> coordinates (xm, ym) and they "stick" to the mouse from that point<br>
>> on,<br>
>> until the next click.<br>
>><br>
>> 4.1 b) Alternatively one could enter the "sticky" phase only if<br>
>> the user<br>
>> clicks the mouse, i.e. as soon as the user after step 3) clicks<br>
>> into the<br>
>> canvas, the objects move to the mouse position and stay selected for<br>
>> mouse movement until the button is released at which point the<br>
>> objects<br>
>> are anchored and possibly deselected. Deselecting could also<br>
>> require a<br>
>> second click. I like b) better than a): it contains less surprises.<br>
>><br>
>> 4.2) This alternate path is taken, if the user doesn't use the<br>
>> mouse,<br>
>> but the cursor keys instead after step 3): The objects move<br>
>> relative to<br>
>> their new position at (xc, yc). They are still selected. Mouse<br>
>> movements don't affect their position anymore, mouse clicks will<br>
>> deselect the objects. That's basically the old, non-smart placement,<br>
>> which has its uses, too.<br>
>><br>
>>> THe current strategy for figuring out which object you clicked on<br>
>>> is that, if<br>
>>> more tan one object is selected, Pd prefers to drag an already-<br>
>>> selected one;<br>
>>> this is much better than whatever I had going before.<br>
>><br>
>> Yes, that's good.<br>
>><br>
>> Ciao<br>
>> --<br>
>> Frank<br>
>><br>
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