<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I'm having trouble with Pd and video on....<br><br>1) g4 portable - titanium, 1 gig RAM - 0sx.3.9, osx.4.11 <br>gem is unstable, as is pidip<br><br>2) minimac intel 1.83 mhz duo - mac 10.4.11 runs great!! but<br><br>a) Ubuntu 2.6.20-16-generic - gem cannot acces vid libraries, nor can pidip <br><br>b) Dyne:bolic /2618ck1d.krn - gem cannot find libs, nor can pidip nor gridflow<br><br>on both Ubuntu and Dyne .... Kino functions..... Meaning there must be a bad refernce or library use ....<br><br>Can I relink or grep these? <br>Any ideas why we are good on mac, but on the same computer, bad for linux?<br>So, can I link these libraries to Kino's dependencies? or to ffmpeg? How??<br><br>finally, on an older HP omnibook, <br>I cannot get Ubuntu dapper, or Feisty(upgraded) or Dynebolic (with Pure:dyne modules) to function with any video
program....yet....<br><br>Thus, no gem or gridflow or pidip video.....<br><br><br>thanks,<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 9/7/08, pd-list-request@iem.at <i><pd-list-request@iem.at></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: pd-list-request@iem.at <pd-list-request@iem.at><br>Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 42, Issue 21<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:36 PM<br><br><pre>Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to<br> pd-list@iem.at<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> pd-list-request@iem.at<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> pd-list-owner@iem.at<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Pd-list
digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Capturing computer s own video stream (simone-www.io-lab.org)<br> 2. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (Steffen Juul)<br> 3. Re: Capturing computer s own video stream (husk)<br> 4. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (mark edward grimm)<br> 5. tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once (Enrique Erne)<br> 6. AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators (Hans-Christoph Steiner)<br> 7. Re: netpd server crashes (Roman Haefeli)<br> 8. Re: select audio & midi from patch (Roman Haefeli)<br> 9. Re: select audio & midi from patch (tim)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:08:01 +0200<br>From: simone-www.io-lab.org <cimo75@gmail.com><br>Subject: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream<br>To: "pd-list@iem.at data" <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID:<br>
<e06043d70809070308yb72aeb1sc376b616a2d2ac07@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>hi (again)<br>i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the computer<br>where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real time.<br>For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and send<br>it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC<br>Simone<br><br><br>-- <br>.wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be<br>accepted and/or viewed....<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:55:48 +0200<br>From: Steffen Juul <stffn@dibidut.dk><br>Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd<br>To: mgrimm@syr.edu<br>Cc: pd_list <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID: <C9B5EDF6-C126-44CB-8E7D-6B450CA7E941@dibidut.dk><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed<br><br><br>On
06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote:<br><br>> hello,<br>><br>> i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the 2.0 jailbroken <br>> iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so im not <br>> certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx 10.5. is there a <br>> tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc?<br><br>There is this: http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/ <br>mrmr_quickstart.pdf<br><br>The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on 10.4 but on <br>10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as i don't run <br>10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo for a <br>friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much about it in <br>the tutorial but i suspect that while building the interface you'd <br>give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to know what you cook<br>up.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun,
07 Sep 2008 21:25:10 +0800<br>From: husk <husk00@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream<br>To: "pd-list@iem.at data" <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID: <48C3D636.8010909@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>simone-www.io-lab.org escribi?:<br>> hi (again)<br>> i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the computer<br>> where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real time.<br>> For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and send<br>> it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC<br>> Simone<br>> <br>Hi, with PDP you can use pdp_capture for do it<br><br>maybe performances are not so good...<br><br>bye<br>Husk<br>><br>> <br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: mark edward grimm
<mgrimm@syr.edu><br>Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd<br>To: Steffen Juul <stffn@dibidut.dk><br>Cc: pd_list <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID: <295470.42486.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>well after banging my head against the wall for a couple hours late yesterday<br>afternoon i found the trouble to be with the 'pipeline' object in my<br>patch...<br><br>it also was odd that i couldn't connect prior to firing up the interface<br>builder (mrmrIB) app. once i did that that mrmr auto-connected upon launch<br>whether mrmrIB was launched or not.<br><br>also i noticed that mrmr does not seem to retain its port settings - i have to<br>re-type it in every time the app is launched.<br><br>once its running it controls my patch just fine and fairly fast!<br><br>> I would be nice to<br>> know what you cook up.<br><br>just using it as demo for my students right now. all incoming
freshman received<br>a free 'ipod touch' with the purchase of a mac - so they all have the<br>means to experiment now! fun fun....<br><br>mark<br><br><br><br><br>--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Steffen Juul <stffn@dibidut.dk> wrote:<br><br>> From: Steffen Juul <stffn@dibidut.dk><br>> Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd<br>> To: mgrimm@syr.edu<br>> Cc: "pd_list" <pd-list@iem.at><br>> Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:55 AM<br>> On 06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote:<br>> <br>> > hello,<br>> ><br>> > i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the<br>> 2.0 jailbroken <br>> > iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so<br>> im not <br>> > certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx<br>> 10.5. is there a <br>> > tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc?<br>> <br>> There is this:<br>> http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/
<br>> mrmr_quickstart.pdf<br>> <br>> The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on<br>> 10.4 but on <br>> 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as<br>> i don't run <br>> 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo<br>> for a <br>> friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much<br>> about it in <br>> the tutorial but i suspect that while building the<br>> interface you'd <br>> give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to<br>> know what you cook up.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:59:38 -0400<br>From: Enrique Erne <enrique@netpd.org><br>Subject: [PD] tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <48C3EC5A.3000603@netpd.org><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>hi martin and the list<br><br>if i send [send 11, send 22, send
33, send 44, send 55(<br>to [tcpclient] the [tcpserver] prints<br><br>receive: 11 22 33 44 55<br><br>actually i expected to get 5 messages back. is this a bug or am i wrong?<br><br>thanks eni<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:38:11 -0400<br>From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org><br>Subject: [PD] AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators<br>To: "pd-list@iem.at data" <pd-list@iem.at><br>Message-ID: <CE2E0B58-681A-4C59-8A1B-0D0E39671361@eds.org><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed<br><br><International Project Development Workshop><br><br>Call for Collaborators<br>AVLAB 1.0<br><br>In Medialab-Prado (Madrid / Spain), from September 17 through October <br>1, 2008<br>Submissions deadline: September 15, 2008<br><br><br>Medialab-Prado issues a call for all those interested in taking part <br>in the AVLAB 1.0 collaborating in the development of
the selected <br>proposals. These ten projects aim to use open source hardware and <br>software tools to create prototypes that explore the relation between <br>sound and all those artistic practices where audio and image intersect.<br><br>Submission Form and Call Guidelines:<br>http://medialab-prado.es/article/taller_avlab_10_- <br>_convocatoria_para_colaboradores<br><br>Abstracts of selected Projects:<br>http://medialab-prado.es/article/list_of_selected_projects<br><br>Workshop general guidelines:<br>http://medialab-prado.es/article/avlab_10<br><br>Go to AVLAB 1.0 forum and contact authors, teachers and other <br>collaborators:<br>http://forommm.intermediae.es/viewforum.php?id=11<br><br>In collaboration with EXPERIMENTACLUB 08 and the Centro para la <br>Difusi?n de la M?sica Contempor?nea.<br><br><br><br>More information: www.medialab-prado.es<br><br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>----<br><br>Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:30 +0200<br>From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer@yahoo.de><br>Subject: Re: [PD] netpd server crashes<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <1220810730.6499.31.camel@yoyo><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>hi john<br><br>sorry for late reply (i currently only have internet sporadically)<br><br>i tried to make a netpd-server based on [tcpserver] from mrpeach instead<br>of [netserver] from maxlib. it wasn't that straightforward as i thought<br>in the beginning, because i had to use another library pdstring from<br>moocow in order to convert string to ascii and vice versa. also i had to<br>'implement' the FUDI protocol to make the new server behave exactly<br>like<br>the old one. i was running the new server on netpd.org for testing and<br>it
seemed to work at first glance. BUT: when i tried to upload some<br>patches to other clients, transmission didn't work at all. it always<br>stopped at some point. i hadn't the time to figure out, what exactly was<br>going on, so i just switched back to the old server (netpd-server.pd).<br><br>you'll find all the different servers on:<br><br>http://www.netpd.org/server<br><br>right now, don't use 'netpd-server-tcpserver.pd', which is<br>unfortunately<br>broken. the other ones are based on [netserver] and might crash after a<br>while, but at least the seem to fully work beside that.<br><br><br>------------<br><br>just for your information:<br>i am not happy about the 'proprietary' FUDI based protocol, that netpd<br>uses right now. we (eni and me) are trying to port netpd to plain OSC<br>protocol. therefore i implemented an OSC proxy server in pd. it is<br>currently running on netpd.org on the port 8003. what it does is simply<br>forwarding OSC packets to
all/specific clients according to the first<br>field in the OSC address pattern. if everything is going to work well,<br>netpd will use OSC in the future (i hope this makes it easier to connect<br>netpd with other projects). you'll find the specs on:<br><br>http://www.netpd.org/server (lower section)<br><br>roman<br> <br><br>On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:01 -0500, John Harrison wrote:<br>> Roman I haven't checked out the server yet. :-( Is it working for you?<br>> Also will there be a live patch jam this coming Tues CEST 22:00? I<br>> couldn't find it on the website. If it is happening, I'll gear up<br>some<br>> people for it.<br>> <br>> -John<br>> <br>> Roman Haefeli wrote: <br>> > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote:<br>> > <br>> > > My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have<br>been <br>> > > playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only<br>one
caveat, <br>> > > which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at<br>that. I've <br>> > > seen the netpd.org server crash a bunch of times now. I<br>downloaded and <br>> > > installed the server patch on an ubuntu Gutsy machine and that<br>crashes <br>> > > similarly. I looked at the patch --- nothing too complex. I<br>suspect <br>> > > there is nothing wrong with the patch itself.<br>> > > <br>> > > I'm suspecting the problem is with netserver, written by<br>Olaf Matthes . <br>> > > I suspect this because netsend~ and netreceive~ crash in my use<br>in <br>> > > similar ways to what I am seeing now with netpd --- Olaf Matthes<br>wrote <br>> > > those too. I was wondering if anybody could confirm or refute<br>that <br>> > > netserver is what is crashing netpd. It would be great if we<br>fixed this. <br>> > > In general I think we have a
problem with some externals<br>involving <br>> > > network communication and if we fixed this in several of the<br>externals <br>> > > maybe we would solve a bunch of problems at once. I might be up<br>for a <br>> > > shot at it myself.<br>> > > <br>> > > -John<br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > hi john<br>> > <br>> > i made a new server patch, this time based on [tcpserver]. this one<br>is<br>> > also much cleaner than the old one. unfortunately it requires also<br>> > [any2string] and [string2any] from pdstring from moocow. <br>> > <br>> > you'll find the patch (and also the older versions) on:<br>> > <br>> > http://www.netpd.org/server<br>> > <br>> > i am currently running this one on netpd.org and i am interested to<br>see,<br>> > whether it is possible to crash it or not. it would be good to have<br>any<br>> > feedback
from you as well.<br>> > <br>> > roman<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ___________________________________________________________ <br>> > Der fr?he Vogel f?ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo!<br>Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> -- <br>> John Harrison<br>> http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison<br>> <br><br><br> <br>___________________________________________________________ <br>Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:49 +0200<br>From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer@yahoo.de><br>Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch<br>To: pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID: <1220810749.6499.33.camel@yoyo><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>hi svend<br><br>you can
send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi settings.<br>those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that correct?).<br>however, you could do the following:<br><br>[r pd]<br>|<br>[print settings]<br><br>then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see<br>some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each line with<br>a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the<br>[messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings.<br><br>with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out, what each<br>number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose<br>correct messages without using the above hack.<br><br>roman<br><br>roman<br>On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote:<br>> Hi list <br>> <br>> It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch? and<br>> with midi settings?? <br>> I was looking for the internal messages, but
there is nothing with<br>> audio & midi. <br>> I hope there's a way to do it.<br>> <br>> Thanks!<br>> sf <br>> <br>> <br>> ______________________________________________________________________<br>> Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ?Qu? tipo de atleta eres?<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br><br><br> <br>___________________________________________________________ <br>Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:40:35 +0200<br>From: tim <info@timvets.net><br>Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch<br>To: reduzierer@yahoo.de, pd-list@iem.at<br>Message-ID:
<1220812835.9464.6.camel@thinkstudio.telenet.be><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br><br>On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 20:05 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:<br>> hi svend<br>> <br>> you can send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi settings.<br>> those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that correct?).<br>> however, you could do the following:<br>> <br>> [r pd]<br>> |<br>> [print settings]<br>> <br>> then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see<br>> some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each line with<br>> a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the<br>> [messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings.<br>> <br>> with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out, what each<br>> number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose<br>> correct messages without using the
above hack.<br>> <br>> roman<br>> <br><br>hello,<br><br>A while ago I had a related problem, (iirc, starting pd with -alsamidi<br>flag didn't show the midi ports to aconnect rightaway)<br><br>I did this:<br>use [r pd]--[print] to see what pd gets sent when you click the menu,<br>and use pd -alsamidi -send "; pd ...whatever the message was"<br><br>so my start-up command looked somewhat like this:<br>pd -alsamidi -send "; pd midi-dialog 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1"<br><br>It did _not_ work when I tried it inside the pd patch with a [message(,<br>but only by putting this in the start-up command.<br><br>gr,<br>Tim<br><br><br>> roman<br>> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote:<br>> > Hi list <br>> > <br>> > It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch?<br>and<br>> > with midi settings?? <br>> > I was looking for the internal messages, but there is nothing with<br>> > audio &
midi. <br>> > I hope there's a way to do it.<br>> > <br>> > Thanks!<br>> > sf <br>> > <br>> > <br>> ><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>> > Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ?Qu? tipo de atleta eres?<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ___________________________________________________________ <br>> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>--
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