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<div>On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Marko Timlin wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <span></span> <font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">I´m using Pd version 0.40.3-extended under Windows XP:<br>Unfortunately this version turned out to be extremly unstable width='100%'. It freezes very often.<br>Before that I was using Pd-0.39.3-extended and it not once froze or crashed during the whole time using the same computer.</span></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The biggest problem is that there aren't any active developers who are working on the Windows side of things for Pd. Literally, the only time I use Windows is to test Pd-extended builds. </div><div><br></div><div>At the minimum, you could file detailed bug reports about the problems in the bug tracker. If you can make a simple Pd patch that causes the problem every time you run it, that makes it much, much easier to fix a bug.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a good chance that I'll put out a quick bugfix release of 0.40.3 for Windows, mostly so file bug reports now.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Bugs:<br>- </span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">if you </span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">try to open a</span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> help file like for example [tabread], Pd doesn`t open the help file and completely freezes?</span></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This doesn't crash on the WinXP machine I have access too, but [tabread] does have a strange issue with the [pddp] object in the help file, so I removed it. Perhaps that is cuasing your crash.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">- these objects [&&~], [!!~] don`t create?</span></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't have those on Ubuntu or Mac OS X either. I think those are not there because of the hexloader issues.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Any ways to fix that?<br>Any way to make this version more stable?<br><br>Marko<br><i></i></span></font><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a></div> </blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br style="font-family: Tahoma; "></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br style="font-family: Tahoma; "></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span> </div><br></body></html>