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<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika <danomatika at gmail.com></FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> like using seq24 to do sequencing</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> without getting in my way and trying to</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> do too much for me.</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">Launchpad<<A HREF="https://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export">https://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export</A>>.</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> Now I can make a song in</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object.</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> the seq24 devs on Launchpad to</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> into the next version of Ubuntu.</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#737373">>> (that would be nice)</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">looks like a nice approach, so I tried it today.</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">unfortunately i got the same result as similar things I tried before and</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">which involve midi sent over alsa or jack to/from pd: poor timing</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">(irregular)</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I uploaded this little test file so you can hear what I mean:</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd/test_jack_timing_seq24_pd.ogg">http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd/test_jack_timing_seq24_pd.ogg</A></FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I connected seq24 to pd by selecting the 'midi bus' for the sequences.</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I ran pd -jack and qjackctl, but i did not make any midi connections in</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">qjackctl itself, so I'm not sure if jack even has anything to do with</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">it...</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I did this on ubuntustudio (hardy)</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">do you get better results ?</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">Tim</FONT></TT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">I've never noticed this before because I don't do any super strict/fast sequencing. Mainly I'm planning</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">on using seq24 to create the midi control sequences that are read and played in pd using the </FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">midifile object at show time. Basically I want the flexibility of the interface for composing as opposed to</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">my gop toggle/slider sequence objects but with the same playback directly within pd for live performance.</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I do not use seq24 on my wearable, the patches should just read the midi songfiles to control whatever</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">is in the patch.</FONT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">hi again,</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I did a second test, this time in pure:dyne.</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">I took an even simpler pattern and switch between [metro 60] and the 32nd</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">notes coming from [notein] to make the difference more apparent:</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd2/test_timing_pd_seq24_2.ogg">http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd2/test_timing_pd_seq24_2.ogg</A></FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">gr,</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#000000">Tim</FONT></TT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">So thats about 166.6 bpm with streams of 32nd notes? I did the same test and the seq24 noteons seem to </FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">"roll". The devs are working on adding jack midi to seq24 which is sample accurate so that should help wait</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">a bit I believe, otherwise jump in and add it.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/?page_id=56">It seems this is a common problem with alsa-based midi anywho.</A></FONT><BR>
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