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<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">yeah sorry frank, i should have explained more clearly.</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">i also think that no GUI is the way to go for functional abstractions. that</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">was the big flaw of the DIY library i did, that the function of the</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">abstractions was tied in with the gui component. i did it that way because</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">i didn't want to clutter the namespace with too many abstractions, and the</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">thought of one abstraction for function, and then a different one for GUI</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">was not appealing at the time.</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">but now, i think that is the only way to go. like, as you said, for</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">polyphony. and then also for the many many cases in which you'd want to</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">build your own gui for custom control.</FONT></TT><BR>
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<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">i do think you guys have got a really really strong system there with</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">rjlib. but i was just saying that without the gui stuff, it doesn't exactly</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">fit into being that 'all purpose building blocks' library that we are</FONT></TT><BR>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#1a1a1a">discussing.</FONT></TT><BR>
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This is where the pd-mtl convention makes so much sense ...<BR>
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Core functionality is made into patches with an underscore at the end of the name and the regular name is just<BR>
a gui wrapper around it. I've started using the approach in the rc-patches and, as Frank said before, it makes<BR>
building larger gui objects much simpler. The right inlet takes all the control whenever possible using name messages.<BR>
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So rc-chorus~_ is a regular object and rc-chorus~ is a gui wrapper with SSSAD. So if you want SSSAD you use the gui.<BR>
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Dan Wilcox<BR>
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