<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Its always good to provide the full OS version and full Pd version. Ideally, there are also a short series of steps to reproduce the problem. That's the tricky part here.</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking of, anyone here good at web development stuff? I think it shouldn't be hard to have the Help->Browser->report bug include lots of info automatically. I can handle the Tcl side, I just don't know the web side at all. Maybe Tcl would open a local page that has a bit of javascript which would then open the sourceforge bug report and fill in the form. I did a test of that a while back, you can use javascript to fill in the forms on the sourceforge page.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On May 14, 2009, at 12:02 PM, brandon zeeb wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Will do. Are there any other relevant bits of information I can provide (system information, dumps, logs, etc) with the ticket to help track down this issue?<br><br>~b<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><br></div><div>That's a very odd bug. I can't reproduce it. If you want, post a bug report to the tracker. Please include as much detail as possible.</div> <div><br></div><div>.hc</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On May 14, 2009, at 11:48 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">In fact, both Shift-Cmd-T and Shift-Cmd-C create a canvas. I re-cleared my preferences directory and tried again, I can reproduce this every time.<br> <br>~brandon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM, brandon zeeb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zeeb.brandon@gmail.com" target="_blank">zeeb.brandon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Ok. Well, are the shortcut keys stored in a preference file? Could a previous installation of Pd be effecting my 0.41.4rc1 install? I've cleared my prefs directory...<br><font color="#888888"> ~Brandon</font><div><div> </div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div><br></div><div>I am on the same platform. I've never </div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><div><div></div><div><br><div><div>On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> Mac OS X 10.5 i386. Has anyone else been seeing this?<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><br></div><div>Hey,</div><div><br></div><div>Let's keep these on list please. That's an odd one, I use that all the time on Mac OS X and Ubuntu. Which platform are you on?</div> <div><br></div><div>.hc</div><div><div></div><div><br><div><div>On May 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, brandon zeeb wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">The toggle shortcut key is still broken, on my machine, it will put a canvas on the page instead of a toggle.<br> <br>~Brandon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! 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