<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Maybe we can have a translator for each session? It doesn't need to be a "professional", just someone who speaks the relevant languages.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Jun 22, 2009, at 6:28 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Hello everybody, in my case my workshop will be in Spanish, it seems logical to me to be in South America, do not be afraid too, I think it may still be in English, not all the time but if questions arise</font></span><div> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">Best Regards from Chile</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">José<br> </span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/22 Sergi Lario <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slario@gmail.com">slario@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> And what about to add pd code tour into hackmeeting sessions?<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/22 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pd-list-request@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list-request@iem.at</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"> Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a><br> <br> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:pd-list-request@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list-request@iem.at</a><br> <br> You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:pd-list-owner@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list-owner@iem.at</a><br> <br> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..."<br> <br> <br> Today's Topics:<br> <br> 1. Re: hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil (glerm soares)<br> 2. Re: hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil (glerm soares)<br> 3. Re: hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil (Alexandre Porres)<br> 4. Re: hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil (Hans-Christoph Steiner)<br> 5. Delay effect without pitchchange (Bj?rn Nielsen)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:24:58 -0300<br> From: glerm soares <<a href="mailto:organismo@gmail.com" target="_blank">organismo@gmail.com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [PD] hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil<br> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br> Cc: <a href="mailto:alejandra@v2.nl" target="_blank">alejandra@v2.nl</a>, Paloma Oliveira <<a href="mailto:pcultural@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcultural@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre<br> Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre Castonguay<br> <<a href="mailto:acastonguay@artengine.ca" target="_blank">acastonguay@artengine.ca</a>>, Sergi Lario <<a href="mailto:slario@gmail.com" target="_blank">slario@gmail.com</a>>, ricardo<br> ruiz <<a href="mailto:doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com" target="_blank">doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com</a>>, Cristiano Figueir?<br> <<a href="mailto:figocris@gmail.com" target="_blank">figocris@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:devolts@descentro.org" target="_blank">devolts@descentro.org</a>, Pd List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:9693578e0906181124l8cf1213of9ffc484be9f81e3@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">9693578e0906181124l8cf1213of9ffc484be9f81e3@mail.gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> 2009/6/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br> <br> ><br> ><br> > I think your ideas definitely sound good. One question I have is how to<br> > handle the languages. Should it be only English, or should there be some<br> > Portuguese sessions too?<br> ><br> <br> I am tottaly shure it's very important to take care of people that don't<br> speak english, and even from those who speak I am shure they will not<br> understand complex concepts in english better than in their native language<br> thoughts.<br> <br> Brasil is not like european countries where english is almost a second<br> language, from my experience I'm shure that lot of newbies will need support<br> on that.<br> <br> I can help as an interpreter also, but I think we need more volunteers on<br> that.<br> <br> Also I encourage Spanish fluent speakers to try speaking "portu?ol". (<br> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portunol" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portunol</a> )<br> <br> I'm setting a wiki/blog here, I will send the instructions in the next mail<br> (BTW - the <a href="http://puredata.info" target="_blank">http://puredata.info</a> seems not to let users edit wikipages by<br> default. Is that true? My user could not and receives a message of<br> "Insuficient Privileges", I could had mailed <a href="mailto:pdmeister@iem.at" target="_blank">pdmeister@iem.at</a> but I think if<br> would be complicated if any new user would have to that - this is the reason<br> i'm stting other wiki. Should I?)<br> <br> <br> t?+<br> glerm<br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/6188cc8c/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/6188cc8c/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 2<br> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:41:41 -0300<br> From: glerm soares <<a href="mailto:organismo@gmail.com" target="_blank">organismo@gmail.com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [PD] hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil<br> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br> Cc: <a href="mailto:alejandra@v2.nl" target="_blank">alejandra@v2.nl</a>, Paloma Oliveira <<a href="mailto:pcultural@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcultural@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre<br> Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre Castonguay<br> <<a href="mailto:acastonguay@artengine.ca" target="_blank">acastonguay@artengine.ca</a>>, Sergi Lario <<a href="mailto:slario@gmail.com" target="_blank">slario@gmail.com</a>>, ricardo<br> ruiz <<a href="mailto:doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com" target="_blank">doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com</a>>, Cristiano Figueir?<br> <<a href="mailto:figocris@gmail.com" target="_blank">figocris@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:devolts@descentro.org" target="_blank">devolts@descentro.org</a>, Pd List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:9693578e0906181141la797e2ane2f5b90f98b8f0ec@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">9693578e0906181141la797e2ane2f5b90f98b8f0ec@mail.gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> > I'm setting a wiki/blog here,<br> ><br> <br> done:<br> <a href="http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009" target="_blank">http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009</a><br> <br> register/login:<br> <a href="http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=UserSettings" target="_blank">http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=UserSettings</a><br> <br> <br> see ye there<br> <br> glerm<br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/68552eac/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/68552eac/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 3<br> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:58:45 -0300<br> From: Alexandre Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [PD] hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil<br> To: glerm soares <<a href="mailto:organismo@gmail.com" target="_blank">organismo@gmail.com</a>><br> Cc: <a href="mailto:alejandra@v2.nl" target="_blank">alejandra@v2.nl</a>, Paloma Oliveira <<a href="mailto:pcultural@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcultural@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre<br> Castonguay <<a href="mailto:acastonguay@artengine.ca" target="_blank">acastonguay@artengine.ca</a>>, Sergi Lario <<a href="mailto:slario@gmail.com" target="_blank">slario@gmail.com</a>>,<br> ricardo ruiz <<a href="mailto:doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com" target="_blank">doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com</a>>, Cristiano<br> Figueir? <<a href="mailto:figocris@gmail.com" target="_blank">figocris@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:devolts@descentro.org" target="_blank">devolts@descentro.org</a>, Pd List<br> <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:161a0b1e0906181658j7eb717i80acd7f80099a4d7@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">161a0b1e0906181658j7eb717i80acd7f80099a4d7@mail.gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> > and most of its neighboring countries, whose official language is<br> Spanish.<br> I would say all, no?<br> <br> Ah, Guiana Francesa?<br> <br> 2009/6/18 glerm soares <<a href="mailto:organismo@gmail.com" target="_blank">organismo@gmail.com</a>><br> <br> ><br> ><br> > 2009/6/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br> ><br> >><br> >><br> >> I think your ideas definitely sound good. One question I have is how to<br> >> handle the languages. Should it be only English, or should there be some<br> >> Portuguese sessions too?<br> >><br> ><br> > I am tottaly shure it's very important to take care of people that don't<br> > speak english, and even from those who speak I am shure they will not<br> > understand complex concepts in english better than in their native language<br> > thoughts.<br> ><br> > Brasil is not like european countries where english is almost a second<br> > language, from my experience I'm shure that lot of newbies will need support<br> > on that.<br> ><br> > I can help as an interpreter also, but I think we need more volunteers on<br> > that.<br> ><br> > Also I encourage Spanish fluent speakers to try speaking "portu?ol". (<br> > <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portunol" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portunol</a> )<br> ><br> > I'm setting a wiki/blog here, I will send the instructions in the next mail<br> > (BTW - the <a href="http://puredata.info" target="_blank">http://puredata.info</a> seems not to let users edit wikipages by<br> > default. Is that true? My user could not and receives a message of<br> > "Insuficient Privileges", I could had mailed <a href="mailto:pdmeister@iem.at" target="_blank">pdmeister@iem.at</a> but I think<br> > if would be complicated if any new user would have to that - this is the<br> > reason i'm stting other wiki. Should I?)<br> ><br> ><br> > t?+<br> > glerm<br> ><br> ><br> <br> <br> --<br> Alexandre Torres Porres<br> cel. (11)8179-6226<br> Website: <a href="http://porres.googlepages.com/home" target="_blank">http://porres.googlepages.com/home</a><br> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/alexandretorresporres" target="_blank">http://www.myspace.com/alexandretorresporres</a><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/a736308d/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090618/a736308d/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 4<br> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:59 -0400<br> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br> Subject: Re: [PD] hackmeetings at PDCon2009 in Brasil<br> To: glerm soares <<a href="mailto:organismo@gmail.com" target="_blank">organismo@gmail.com</a>><br> Cc: <a href="mailto:alejandra@v2.nl" target="_blank">alejandra@v2.nl</a>, Paloma Oliveira <<a href="mailto:pcultural@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcultural@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre<br> Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>, Alexandre Castonguay<br> <<a href="mailto:acastonguay@artengine.ca" target="_blank">acastonguay@artengine.ca</a>>, Sergi Lario <<a href="mailto:slario@gmail.com" target="_blank">slario@gmail.com</a>>, ricardo<br> ruiz <<a href="mailto:doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com" target="_blank">doutorsocratesoreidofutebol@gmail.com</a>>, Cristiano Figueir?<br> <<a href="mailto:figocris@gmail.com" target="_blank">figocris@gmail.com</a>>, Pd List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:48046127-4CEE-4B90-A602-36A0E771827B@at.or.at" target="_blank">48046127-4CEE-4B90-A602-36A0E771827B@at.or.at</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed";<br> DelSp="yes"<br> <br> <br> I added some stuff and reorganized it so that the two languages are<br> unified. That way it makes it feel like they are talking about the<br> same event, rather than two separate ones.<br> <br> <a href="http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009" target="_blank">http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009</a><br> <br> . hc<br> <br> On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, glerm soares wrote:<br> <br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > I'm setting a wiki/blog here,<br> ><br> > done:<br> > <a href="http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009" target="_blank">http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=HackmeetingPD2009</a><br> ><br> > register/login:<br> > <a href="http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=UserSettings" target="_blank">http://wiki.descentro.org/wikka.php?wakka=UserSettings</a><br> ><br> ><br> > see ye there<br> ><br> > glerm<br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be<br> glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and<br> this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin<br> <br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090619/6a139433/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090619/6a139433/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 5<br> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:16 +0200<br> From: Bj?rn Nielsen <<a href="mailto:bjoarn@bjoarn.dk" target="_blank">bjoarn@bjoarn.dk</a>><br> Subject: [PD] Delay effect without pitchchange<br> To: Pd List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:fe17f2470906220208v40ad5d90l9adcc38e0026ed9a@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">fe17f2470906220208v40ad5d90l9adcc38e0026ed9a@mail.gmail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> <br> Hallo pd list<br> <br> I trying to make a delay effect. 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