<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Frank Barknecht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fbar@footils.org">fbar@footils.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hallo,<br>
<div class="im">Rich E hat gesagt: // Rich E wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="im">> Ah nice, especially for throwing that together live. Thanks for the<br>
> tutorial!<br>
><br>
> Not to be too much of a critic on a good tutorial, but... it is quite static<br>
> though, for the flexibility of pd, don't you think? Limiting all the<br>
> rhythms to 32nd notes. Frank, I would love to see your approach to creating<br>
> a more 'dynamic' drum sequencer. I have tried a couple times now and my<br>
> current one got too complicated quite fast. Yet, I see it as the main<br>
> benefit for using pd for sequencing over other midi sequencers - there is no<br>
> limit for beat segmentations.<br>
<br>
</div>The g_pattern32 object was designed with traditional<br>
pop/rock/dance/house/hihop/whatever music in mind. (Btw. the latest version<br>
added to the RjDj svn now includes a tiny bit of keyboard support: press "t"<br>
for toggling a step during the first second after selecting it.)<br>
<br>
But in the end it's just a little sugar coating for a Pd array hopefully making<br>
editing arrays graphically a bit less painful but still fast. The table itself<br>
can be used as source material for other tasks as well, e.g. as a probability<br>
table etc.<br>
<br>
It would be possible to make a variation of the object where you can resize the<br>
array dynamically, use a number box to select steps to edit etc., but as you<br>
have seen yourself: It becomes complicated quite fast, which may be a sign that<br>
there is no good general approach to editing free form table data and that it<br>
may be better to do that in external software like a midi file editor or a<br>
spreadsheet. Or that editing it is wrong altogether and instead some<br>
algorithmic procedure should be used ...<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Actually I have always been interested in sequencing in pd because midi software (especially free midi software) is so limited; they are also only capable of 'pop' rhythms. <br>
<br>Algorithmic rhythms still need need to be organised in some manner more meaningful than code, in my opinion. There is huge area in-between algorithmic music and pop music. <br><br>Arg, I wish I had more time to show what I have been working on, I have always meant to post it on this board at some point. It is another topic, though.<br>
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Ciao<br>
--<br>
Frank<br>
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