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To be honest an oscillator in that setting might do the job just as well, just so long as the figure isn't requested with the same regularity as the oscillation.<BR> <BR>> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:44:05 -0400<BR>> From: martin.peach@sympatico.ca<BR>> To: cemthemuteguney@yahoo.com<BR>> CC: pd-list@iem.at<BR>> Subject: Re: [PD] help_random/seed<BR>> <BR>> cem guney wrote:<BR>> > hi,<BR>> > <BR>> > thanks much for your response!<BR>> > <BR>> > also in regards to your explanation,<BR>> > <BR>> > "It would be nice if the random source could be independently specified <BR>> > for all the pd objects that use random numbers,<BR>> > since the count of unreachable combinations when using the standard <BR>> > deterministic chaos generators is infinite"<BR>> > <BR>> > any application examples as to why it would be nice if the random source <BR>> > could be independently specified?<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> Well I think it's mainly a philosophical thing about the meaning of <BR>> 'random', but probably there are sequence generators for music that <BR>> sound different with 'truly' random vs pseudo-random numbers. Sometimes <BR>> you may want a repeating chaotic sequence, sometimes a completely random <BR>> one.<BR>> <BR>> For cryptography, as in a one-time pad, pseudo-random is relatively easy <BR>> to crack. There are at most 65536 different sequences with typical <BR>> pseudo-random generators, but that's not any inherent limitation of <BR>> pseudo-random, just the particular implementation that's often used.<BR>> <BR>> Also with games like rolling dice or shuffling cards, you probably want <BR>> it to be completely unpredictable, or regular players will begin to <BR>> recognize patterns.<BR>> <BR>> Pseudo-random white noise playing at audio rate will actually be a <BR>> repeating waveform several minutes or hours long. It's up to you if that <BR>> matters or not.<BR>> <BR>> Martin<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<BR>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<BR><br /><hr />Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/' target='_new'>Find out more.</a></body>
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