<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>With Pd-extended 0.41.4 and later on Mac OS X, putting libs, objects, and help patches into /Library/Pd should just work. It has everywhere I have tested it. Please file a bug report with as much detail as possible if it is not working for you.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:21 PM, jurgen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To me the point is not about file formats but rather simpler about locations in OS X. If the .pd_darwin document is actually compiled for the processor one uses it will work, no doubt. What I noticed that does not work is the default folders mentioned in the on-line documentation, i.e. for global use in '<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Monaco, 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; ">/Library/Pd'. </span>After I read the instructions online I tried it again - when I delete the path in the preferences and drop the libs in there they are _not_ available any longer (red dotted boxes). Reversing the operation and they're back. I noticed this under OS X.4 and under OS X.6 that I'm using now.<div>My conclusion was that the user needs to do something else when the default locations '/Library/Pd' are used that I am not aware of.<br><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Jurgen<br><div><br><div><div>On Dec 27, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>On Dec 26, 2009, at 3:36 AM, <a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at">zmoelnig@iem.at</a> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Quoting "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>>:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- Use Pd-extended 0.41.4<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is fftease included with this version, or is this just a general advice?<br></blockquote><br>get it here, as a libdir:<br><a href="http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds">http://puredata.info/Members/hans/FFTeaseBuilds</a><br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- .d_fat should be deprecated, use .pd_darwin for all arches on Mac OS X.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">or post a feature request to make Pd-extended acknowledge .d_fat, in order to stay compatible with Pd-vanilla (or start a flamewar on suffixes)<br></blockquote><br>Patches welcome. 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