<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Wow, strange. Perhaps it thinks the menu item is disabled? Seems like something to report on tcl-mac.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Rich E wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">pic of audio dialog on svn compile of pd-gui-rewrite, showing the gray text<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Rich E <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reakinator@gmail.com">reakinator@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>Still in OS X 10.6. I don't have one of these problems with Pd-devel-0.43 (dec 15) nightly build, so it must all be because of the tk/cocoa version that you mention. I'm not sure how to report it a tcl mailing list, as I don't know where the code is that implements these things. <div> <br></div><div>Does it make sense that the arrow keys are detected differently in Tk/Cocoa, so they are just sent to pd's gui C code as spaces? </div><div><br></div><div>As for the text color issue in the audio settings, you'll have to point me towards what is controlling that. I'll send you a screenshot after this email.</div> <div><br></div><div>Do you know how I can force configure to use <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon?</span></div><div> <br></div><div>I'll use the nightly build in the meantime and let you know what comes up.<br><br></div><div>-rich</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> First off, which platform? Is this still Mac OS X 10.6? If so, 10.6 has a built-in custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7 that uses Cocoa for the back end rather than Carbon. Tcl/Tk 8.6 will only use this Cocoa backend, but will work on Mac OS X 10.5. It would be good to flush out these bugs and report them to the tcl-mac list so that they can get fixed.<br> <br> One thing to try is using one of the nightly builds, which include Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon. I think they should work on 10.6:<br> <a href="http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/" target="_blank">http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/</a><div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div> On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rich E wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi List, Hans,<br> <br> I've been using the pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 svn for a couple days now and here are some notes I've taken when finding various bugs (is the better sent to the pd-dev list?):<br> <br> • In Audio Settings, the text in the drop down menus is hardly visible because it is very light grey<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Never seen that, screenshot?<div><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> • there is a new menu item called 'apple' with "about pd" and preferences"<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Known issue with the Tk/Cocoa, haven't found a workaround yet.<div><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> • editing an object name:<br> ‣ moving with arrows adds a space to the end, but does not move within the object name<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Hmm, can't reproduce, Tk/Cocoa issue?<div><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> • opening "about pd" gives an error:<br> ‣ Error: can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable"<br> ‣ an't read "pd_myversion": no such variable<br> can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable<br> while executing<br> "regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3"<br> (procedure "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext" line 15)<br> invoked from within<br> "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename""<br> (".txt" arm line 1)<br> invoked from within<br> "switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] {<br> ".txt" {::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename"<br> } ".c" {::..."<br> (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 4)<br> invoked from within<br> "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt"<br> (menu invoke)<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Its not implemented yet... I was hoping to make "About Pd" a pd patch.<div><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I have some time on my hands now that I finished my Master's, and frankly I think the pd-vanilla GUI is unpleasant, so I could learn tcl/tk and help out, if needed.<br> </blockquote> <br></div> That would be great! Your reports have already been helpful. I'm going to be in pretty deep this month till its finished and merged into Miller's 0.43 version. 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