<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Frank Barknecht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fbar@footils.org">fbar@footils.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br>
<br>
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:07:21PM +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:<br>
> Frank Barknecht escribió:<br>
<div class="im">> > *If* order matters to you (it may not always do) you can still use<br>
> >the subpatch approach with dummy inlet~/outlet~ objects.<br>
><br>
> That's the part I don't understand. I mean I can't figure out the<br>
> trick. I can easily imagine (and actually tried) how to patch things<br>
> to force the desired order, but then again, I see myself obliged to<br>
> do the wired connections that the [s~]/[r~]s were meant to avoid.<br>
><br>
> May you please make an example of the technique? I would be so grateful.<br>
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</div>Attached is a very stupid example, which should show what I mean: Here<br>
various abstractions are layed out in a way, that they execute in order.<br>
Only one connection is used for order forcing, but still many s~/r~ are<br>
active, all properly ordered.<br>
<br>
Real life examples may not be so easy to sort, of course.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> >And don't forget the other application of s~/r~ where you actually<br>
> >*want* to have a delay of one block: feedback algorithms.<br>
><br>
> Yeah but in that case I would rather use a [delread~]/[delwrite~] pair, ¿no?<br>
<br>
</div>Well, you could, but s~/r~ is much easier to use. Also<br>
delread~/delwrite~ with a delay set to 0 won't have a delay of 0 in<br>
feedback situations, so it may even be more confusing.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Wow that sounds very interesting. I hope you will publish the paper<br>
> on the internet so we can have a look<br>
<br>
</div>It will be in the LAC proceedings available on <a href="http://lac.linuxaudio.org" target="_blank">lac.linuxaudio.org</a> soon.<br>
</blockquote><div> <br>I'll keep checking but it would be real nice if you could post it here when available.<br>I hear some of my friends using this technique rather successfully... <br><br>Thanks,<br>Andras<br>
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