<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Since this would involve the GUI side only really, it should be implemented as a plugin. One thing I'm planning on adding is a 'pd-gui' receive, like the 'pd' receive, so you can send messages to the GUI from pd. That is currently the only missing piece for implementing this.</div><div><br></div><div>Like was said before, it won't be hard to implement in Tcl, post any questions here and we can help get it working.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Is it possible to make these messages that can be sent to a canvas? That's already the <br>way one changes settings of a canvas (editmode, clear, donecanvasdialog, etc.)<br><br>Also, that way you <br>could have a patch my-kiosk-thingy.pd, and when you open it you could have all kinds of <br>initialization settings, and a subpatch [pd gui]. When you get all the init values set you <br>can send [fullscreen 1( -- [s pd-gui] . Then you don't need to make a new object [gui].<br><br>-Jonathan<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 4/22/10, <a href="mailto:errordeveloper@gmail.com">errordeveloper@gmail.com</a> <i><<a href="mailto:errordeveloper@gmail.com">errordeveloper@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: <a href="mailto:errordeveloper@gmail.com">errordeveloper@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:errordeveloper@gmail.com">errordeveloper@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PD] gui devel idea: "kiosk mode"<br>To: <a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at">pd-list@iem.at</a><br>Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:51 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail"><br>i think it's probably better to do this via a msg<br><br>so basically there would be commands like:<br>gui-hide-menu<br>gui-hide-scrollbar<br>gui-hide- ...<br>gui-canvas-fullscreen<br>gui-hide-decortion<br><br>so basically you can put this into a subpatch and loadbang whichever one<br>you need ;)<br><br>may it's better to implement this via gui object which you would send<br>msgs to ..<br><br>[hide-canvas(<br>|<br>|<br>[gui]<br><br>or we do this kind of stylie: [; pd-gui command(<br><br>?<br><br>i'm not sure which way is more practical ..<br><br>On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:57:51PM +0200, András Murányi wrote:<br>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Joăo Pais <<a ymailto="mailto:jmmmpais@googlemail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jmmmpais@googlemail.com">jmmmpais@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hi,<br>> ><br>> > just had a thought for a gui development: a runtime mode, feasible for<br>> > demos or "finished" applications where the user only gets presented with the<br>> > finished program, and no menus. In opera it's called kiosk mode (<br>> > <a href="http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/" target="_blank">http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/</a>): all the menus are hidden,<br>> > and the user should only interact with the program.<br>> ><br>> > It doesn't have to go as far as opera's mode (and disable key shortcuts),<br>> > but if it's not complicated, a "presentation mode" could be nice for patch<br>> > showcase, finished performance patches or tools, ...<br>> > As far as I imagine, some simple options might be enough:<br>> ><br>> > - hide menus<br>> > - hide window lane<br>> > - hide borders<br>> > - fullscreen mode<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> ><br>> > Joăo<br>> ><br>> <br>> Sounds good!<br>> Seems this is not supported in Tcl/Tk 8.3 but from 8.4 up it is.<br>> Which, according to current 'policy', predestines it to be a plugin (?),<br>> actually a very simple one.<br>> Shall be bind to F11!<br>> <br>> Provided this fullscreen feature, (how) do want to be able to scroll the<br>> canvas? I suppose we just keep the scrollbars...?<br>> <br>> Andras<br><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" href="/mc/compose?to=Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" href="/mc/compose?to=Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br> _______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>"Free software means you control what your computer does. 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