<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 25, 2010, at 4:42 PM, <a href="mailto:colet.patrice@free.fr">colet.patrice@free.fr</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>hello,<br><br>it looks good and nice idea about the toggle,<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here's the global mixer. I have an throw object that sets the throw targets ([rc-throw~] and [rc-throw2~]) so it's easy to send to the drusm channel , guitar channel, etc [rc-throw~ DRUMS]. I made the global mixer so as to have a reference point between song patches.</div><div><img id="7739f1c3-5aae-479e-8417-1dcd68feabe9" height="576" width="798" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:73ABA5A4-1F16-4093-B8CF-AC33CB669B96"></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div> is there a relation with s-abstractions?</div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Well, I was influenced by the s-abstractons when I first started making gui abstractions. The rc-patches and s-abstractions are similar except for the fact that Chris wants to keep s-abstractions pd vanilla compatible and I don't want to jump through those hoops. However, I try to keep the number of externals I use down to a stable, core set (zexy, list-abs, etc) so it should not be hard to use in vanilla.</div><div><br></div><div>I mainly want easy to use, gui objects for song building etc that are state saving. I'm always checking out example patches sent to the list and adding things.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>----- "Dan Wilcox" <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I have similar mixer channels (mono and stereo) which I send to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">different busses on a global mixer. Works alright. Due to the vu<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">taking cpu, there is a toggle box you need to click to enable the vu.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 24, 2010, at 1:37 PM, servando barreiro wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I haven´t invented anything but I want to share this:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://servandobarreiro.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mix_ser.png">http://servandobarreiro.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mix_ser.png</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(just th image)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It´s quite simple, but I find it useful for live performing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">situations.. (and Iike that kind of aesthetic..) maybe somebody wants<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to improve it..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I was thinking about adding a vu-meter per channel but at the moment,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I manage ok with just two into the master section (still in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">progress..). In this case, the dac~ object it´s inside the mixer.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://minitronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trondheim-minimixerpd.zip">http://minitronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trondheim-minimixerpd.zip</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">enjoy..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hello Roman<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">my criteria...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">stolen some stuff inside,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">like the dynamic routing, some times ago.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of aesthetics,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">anecdotic criterium in this conversation.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">come from, neither at each level it comes.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">highest peak value,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">make gaining time<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for finding the good slider,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">choosing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">slider, is just<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">accurately<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">average power,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is modulated over a slider.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">here is my favorite mixing tool:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg">http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ phase inversion<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ Gain level<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">yet.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can record/play automation from the board.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">fader.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ same for vu-meter (all)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">records audio, if it's midi it records midi<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to mixer track.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can group tracks into group tracks.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">like hiding all different parts of the tracks<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">window (so we can see all settings) ...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dynamic processing fx.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">need to make a stand alone patch.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is there such one?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">----- Mail Original -----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">De: "Roman Haefeli" <<a href="mailto:reduzierer@yahoo.de">reduzierer@yahoo.de</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">À: "colet patrice" <<a href="mailto:colet.patrice@free.fr">colet.patrice@free.fr</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: "João Pais" <<a href="mailto:jmmmpais@googlemail.com">jmmmpais@googlemail.com</a>>, "pd-list" <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi Patko<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, <a href="mailto:colet.patrice@free.fr">colet.patrice@free.fr</a> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">apparently not...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><marketing lingo><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Have you checked mx from netpd?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.netpd.org/Mx">http://www.netpd.org/Mx</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- unlimited number of slots for aux-fx<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- aux-fx can be chained<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- you can write your own fx<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">inserts in a chain as you want)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- dynamic processing fx<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- EQs<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pitchshifter and more.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"></marketing lingo><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Roman<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dan Wilcox<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://danomatika.com">danomatika.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://robotcowboy.com">robotcowboy.com</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a 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