Hi,<br>Are the two messages of any interest to Pd users? If the answer is no, then i don't really see the point in not removing them, although i understand that this would go against the pd-list rules. This thing is i find this list to be extremely helpful and i d be very sad if this threat is credible and the future of pd-list actually endangered. <br>
I don't know anything about internet-related laws, though...<br><br>Pierre<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/23 IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noc@iem.at">noc@iem.at</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">hi all,<br>
<br>
sorry for posting an OT mail to the mainlist, but i really want to have<br>
as many opinions as posible on this.<br>
<br>
<br>
i (as list admin) have just received an email by somebody who wants<br>
their mail to be removed from the archive:<br>
<snip><br>
Subject: FORMAT NOTICE<br>
<br>
August, 22 2010<br>
<br>
I posted a message on the pd-announce list, being not aware that it was<br>
a public list: <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX</a><br>
<br>
Someone replied to my message, also publicly, on the pd-list list:<br>
<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX</a><br>
<br>
Today, I ask you to remove these two messages from your website,<br>
because I don't want my name to appear publicly on the web.<br>
<br>
If they are not removed within 15 days, I will do the necessary to sue you.<br>
<br>
XXX XXXXX<br>
</snip><br>
<br>
<br>
i must say, that i'm a bit perplex.<br>
<br>
while in principal i'm not opposed to removing the post if they have any<br>
problems with it,<br>
however, i find the tone at least impertinent, and would prefer to not<br>
give way to a threat to sue.<br>
<br>
i have thus answered:<br>
<answer><br>
hold on!<br>
<br>
i understand that you probably don't want an unsubscribe request to be<br>
available in a public archive.<br>
<br>
however, all the pd-mailinglists have always made it clear, that<br>
everything will be archived and made available to the public.<br>
<br>
thus, by subscribing to one of those mailinglists, you have given your<br>
agreement that all your postings to the list will be made available via<br>
those archives.<br>
<br>
furthermore, you are of course free to ask that your posting is removed<br>
from the archives.<br>
however, if somebody replied to your posting and has made this available<br>
to the public, then i don't see what entitles you to request a removal.<br>
it is their posting.<br>
<br>
the pd-lists are an open forum.<br>
they are no place to threaten people with sueing.<br>
<br>
fgmadsr<br>
IOhannes<br>
</answer><br>
<br>
<br>
what do you think of all this?<br>
<br>
<br>
fgmasdr<br>
IOhannes<br>
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