<div>i spent several years at an online news publication and we regularly received "requests" in this vain (including threats to sue if not complied with within x number of days) from people we had published interviews with. the standard reply was always "you agreed to the interview, therefor to its publication, so no, we won't delete it."</div>
<div>needless to say, nothing ever went beyond a couple of emails back and forth. (at most we would get a reply saying "yeah, but i don't want to be associated with that part of my life anymore" - which was always good for a laugh).</div>
<meta charset="utf-8"><div><br></div><div>hans, your reply sounds balanced and spot-on to me.</div><div><br></div><div>besides the 'it's a public list and you agreed to it' argument, if you give in to this, you are creating a precedent and the public archive loses its value as a historical record.</div>
<div>he has not given a strong enough reason to do that.</div><div><br></div><div>he won't sue.</div><div>(and if he's based in the states, afaik, you can then sue him for threatening to sue and not following through :D )</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:49:57 +0200<br>
From: "IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)"<br>
<<a href="mailto:noc@iem.at">noc@iem.at</a>><br>
Subject: [PD] [ot] sueing the mailing list...<br>
To: pd-list <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at">pd-list@iem.at</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4C725255.5010101@iem.at">4C725255.5010101@iem.at</a>><br>
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<br>
hi all,<br>
<br>
sorry for posting an OT mail to the mainlist, but i really want to have<br>
as many opinions as posible on this.<br>
<br>
<br>
i (as list admin) have just received an email by somebody who wants<br>
their mail to be removed from the archive:<br>
<snip><br>
Subject: FORMAT NOTICE<br>
<br>
August, 22 2010<br>
<br>
I posted a message on the pd-announce list, being not aware that it was<br>
a public list: <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX</a><br>
<br>
Someone replied to my message, also publicly, on the pd-list list:<br>
<a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX</a><br>
<br>
Today, I ask you to remove these two messages from your website,<br>
because I don't want my name to appear publicly on the web.<br>
<br>
If they are not removed within 15 days, I will do the necessary to sue you.<br>
<br>
XXX XXXXX<br>
</snip><br>
<br>
<br>
i must say, that i'm a bit perplex.<br>
<br>
while in principal i'm not opposed to removing the post if they have any<br>
problems with it,<br>
however, i find the tone at least impertinent, and would prefer to not<br>
give way to a threat to sue.<br>
<br>
i have thus answered:<br>
<answer><br>
hold on!<br>
<br>
i understand that you probably don't want an unsubscribe request to be<br>
available in a public archive.<br>
<br>
however, all the pd-mailinglists have always made it clear, that<br>
everything will be archived and made available to the public.<br>
<br>
thus, by subscribing to one of those mailinglists, you have given your<br>
agreement that all your postings to the list will be made available via<br>
those archives.<br>
<br>
furthermore, you are of course free to ask that your posting is removed<br>
from the archives.<br>
however, if somebody replied to your posting and has made this available<br>
to the public, then i don't see what entitles you to request a removal.<br>
it is their posting.<br>
<br>
the pd-lists are an open forum.<br>
they are no place to threaten people with sueing.<br>
<br>
fgmadsr<br>
IOhannes<br>
</answer><br>
<br>
<br>
what do you think of all this?<br>
<br>
<br>
fgmasdr<br>
IOhannes<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
IEM - network operation center<br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:noc@iem.at">noc@iem.at</a><br>
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