<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own kernel. Try that before switching :)</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Ahh, livna....<br>You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to Ubuntu, what do I tall them when i go back? :o)<br>I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's the way forward.<br> <br>Thanks,<br>Andras<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos.<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country<br> > sometimes... :o)<br> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA have<br> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...<br> ><br> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>><br> >><br> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family<br> >> I like it<br> >><br> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?<br> >> ><br> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>><br> >> >><br> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.<br> >> >><br> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <<a href="mailto:juanmjv@gmail.com">juanmjv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> >> >><br> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last time, I<br> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed the<br> >> >> >> 32<br> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for 10.04<br> >> >> >> available?<br> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices? And what about<br> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce desktop,<br> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and 2gb of<br> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a must for<br> >> >> >> me.<br> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using OS X<br> >> >> >> and<br> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its<br> >> >> >> available<br> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.<br> >> >> >><br> >> >> ><br> >> >> > Hi There,<br> >> >> ><br> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red Hat<br> >> >> > for<br> >> >> > a<br> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave up<br> >> >> > finally a<br> >> >> > few years ago).<br> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of memory),<br> >> >> > and my<br> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but in the<br> >> >> > case<br> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core communication<br> >> >> > and<br> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now, well<br> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower than the<br> >> >> > 32-bit<br> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)<br> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have, it<br> >> >> > really<br> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system has to<br> >> >> > be<br> >> >> > tuned<br> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include getting rid<br> >> >> > of<br> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with those.<br> >> >> > After<br> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they?<br> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel, and<br> >> >> > what<br> >> >> > you<br> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.<br> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel. Once i<br> >> >> > find<br> >> >> > a<br> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into home-brewing my<br> >> >> > kernel. :)<br> >> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > Muranyi Andras<br> ><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Muranyi Andras<br> _______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++)</div></span></div></span> </div><br></body></html>