Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu seemed kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?<br>- large user base<br>
- entirely non-for-profit<br>- targeted the desktop more definitely than some others<br>- software with different copyrights avalable in a rather integrated way (universe, multiverse, medibuntu)<br>- nice brownish look :o)<br>
<br>Andras<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?<br>
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2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>>:<br>
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> The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own kernel.<br>
> Try that before switching :)<br>
> .hc<br>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:<br>
><br>
> Ahh, livna....<br>
> You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to Ubuntu,<br>
> what do I tall them when i go back? :o)<br>
> I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's the<br>
> way forward.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Andras<br>
><br>
> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country<br>
>> > sometimes... :o)<br>
>> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA have<br>
>> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family<br>
>> >> I like it<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <<a href="mailto:bernardobarros2@gmail.com">bernardobarros2@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <<a href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <<a href="mailto:juanmjv@gmail.com">juanmjv@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last time,<br>
>> >> >> >> I<br>
>> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed<br>
>> >> >> >> the<br>
>> >> >> >> 32<br>
>> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for<br>
>> >> >> >> 10.04<br>
>> >> >> >> available?<br>
>> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices? And what<br>
>> >> >> >> about<br>
>> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce desktop,<br>
>> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and 2gb<br>
>> >> >> >> of<br>
>> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a must<br>
>> >> >> >> for<br>
>> >> >> >> me.<br>
>> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using OS<br>
>> >> >> >> X<br>
>> >> >> >> and<br>
>> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its<br>
>> >> >> >> available<br>
>> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > Hi There,<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red<br>
>> >> >> > Hat<br>
>> >> >> > for<br>
>> >> >> > a<br>
>> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave up<br>
>> >> >> > finally a<br>
>> >> >> > few years ago).<br>
>> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of<br>
>> >> >> > memory),<br>
>> >> >> > and my<br>
>> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but in<br>
>> >> >> > the<br>
>> >> >> > case<br>
>> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core<br>
>> >> >> > communication<br>
>> >> >> > and<br>
>> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,<br>
>> >> >> > well<br>
>> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower than<br>
>> >> >> > the<br>
>> >> >> > 32-bit<br>
>> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)<br>
>> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have, it<br>
>> >> >> > really<br>
>> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system has<br>
>> >> >> > to<br>
>> >> >> > be<br>
>> >> >> > tuned<br>
>> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include getting<br>
>> >> >> > rid<br>
>> >> >> > of<br>
>> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with those.<br>
>> >> >> > After<br>
>> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they?<br>
>> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,<br>
>> >> >> > and<br>
>> >> >> > what<br>
>> >> >> > you<br>
>> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.<br>
>> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel. Once i<br>
>> >> >> > find<br>
>> >> >> > a<br>
>> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into home-brewing<br>
>> >> >> > my<br>
>> >> >> > kernel. :)<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Muranyi Andras<br>
>> ><br>
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