<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Hi all</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">I went to a couple of meetings but found them, as a beginner, not particularly motivating. </span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">I think, if you got some experience with Pd, work best because they are more focused on showing what you've already done.<br></span><span title=""><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="">As a beginner, of course, you want to attend because you want to learn from the basics, the fundamentals, which is the reason why these meetings tend to become pseudo workshops, but from what I read in the forum, there is neither the desire nor the idea of doing it this way.</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Anyhow, showcasing is also good, because you get the picture of the potential and amplitude of pd.<br></span><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">A good solution could be to provide a regularly basic course in Pd </span></span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; ">(every season, or something)</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "> in addition to specific workshops (I missed Servando´s one, pity!).</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title=""><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="">This, I think, would be a healthy way to create a more participatory community.</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title=""><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Best</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title=""><br></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title="">Roberto</span></span></font></div></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span title=""><br></span></span></font></div><div><div>El 17/09/2010, a las 18:30, servando barreiro escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div class="plainMail">> Mat: so, how was the pdmtl #6 ? , for sure when we will have 30 pd meetings in Berlin it will be quite different..<br><br>I don't remember very much, as pdmtl #6 (six) was nearly six years ago. There were four presentations and a total of 10 people. The attendance was thus much smaller than at the meetings #2, #3, #4, but in the end, our average attendance grew closer to that, with the years.<br><br> <a href="http://artengine.ca/pdmtl/6.html" target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/pdmtl/6.html</a><br><br>pdmtl #36 (thirty-six) has just happened. We were only seven, which is below average. But it was fun, and people seemed happy to meet. Low number of people means that the interactions are easier because with large
numbers, people get shy and don't want to disturb. I think that #36 had more questions (during or after the presentations).<br><br>* agree..<br><br>> btw, are you recording the meetings?<br><br>No. I think that quite a few presentations would just not happen if we recorded them for posterity (or streamed them worldwide). The most popular word in our texts is « uhhhhhhh ». ;)<br><br>* In our case is uhmmmm.. : )<br><br>Also, do you speak French ? almost all of the presentations happen in French (and not in a european dialect).<br><br>*very little, but maybe enough to follow a pd conversation.. <br><br>> I would love to attend them to take ideas for the Berlin meet., Slowly or not so slowly, the Berlin meeting will develope. Time is an important factor here..<br><br>pdmtl originally got a real quick start. our record number of people was 25 at the #3 in march 2004. the problem was in keeping it a large number over the
years because many people come and go and expectations come and go.<br><br>* Pd Berlin also had packed days in the beguinning. some people at Nk were surprised somehow to see the amount of people in the early meetings in comparison with the supercollider meet. <br><br>But.. as we know, the quality it´s not in the number... and definitely, we had very nice and inspiring meetings until now, specially this days with "surprise" guests and also improvised "last-patch showcase".. I have to apologize for non documenting and archiving the pdBln meets as they deserve.. but well.. It´s never too late (and I still have some vids and pics from former meetings..).<br><br>As I see in your arquive from pdmtl, seems to be quite more serious and organized than pdBln but of course, we are different countries, cultures and approaches but both of them valid.. B-)<br><br><br>
_______________________________________________________________________<br>| Mathieu Bouchard ------------------------------ Villeray, Montréal, QC</div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
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