<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>I appreciate the concern, but honestly I think the best solution is to just ignore the trolling. If its too much, may I suggest filtering the list in your mailer?</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br> </font> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jurgen:</font></font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it is a suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit more specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing to say- if you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to the list. “If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all”</font></font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#663366">Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges nobody else but you.</font></font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's previous comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and you call that a community”? What is the point is saying that? You must agree it is a comment to really just take the piss out of the developers and is demotivating. Hardly sensible discourse </font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#993399">Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!</font></font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">No, that is not the case at all, and if this is the impression I have given , then I apologise-were all adults here and if I have done something wrong then I am willing to take a step back. If you don't agree with me, that's fair enough-like I said bad feelings between people is not a good thing.</font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">To just me it seems, that Sevy is pissed off and is just trying to piss other people off. If you like have look back at some of the previous posts and then tell me if you think his posts are constructive or not.</font></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><br> </p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><br> </p></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jurgen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noise.now@gmail.com">noise.now@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!<br> <br> Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges nobody else but you.<br> <div class="im"><br> <br> On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:<br> <br> > Hi<br> ><br> > Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments?<br> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> _______________________________________________<br> > <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> _______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... 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